Adobe your friend/$21 month ?

[tobey bilek]

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I quit PS CC a few years back and went to Capture One.  Happy except there is no way to add borders.  My new computer is M1 Mac Mini and old is 2012 Mac Pro Tower which has Adobe CS  6 .and I used CC for first two years on it,  but the great new ideas for photographers never appeared so I quit the rent.  

Needing borders and not wanting to move files from one to another,  I called Adobe for a copy of my PERPETUAL license CS 6.  Too old. Perpetual does not mean forever.  They offered me free PS Elements which I downloaded, but it would not install.  Adobe help screwed me around with the worst help people I ever worked with.  I asked about rosetta, but nobody know what that was.  More phone calls no help.

I installed rosetta2 which just  became available. and now Elements went in.  This is a garbage program for amateurs and only works in 8 bit.   OK for borders on JPEG, but not the rest.

Now the good part.  For fun I looked up price of  CC and now is double the price of $10 monthly unless you double up with Creative Cloud.  I do not need it.  Financials show Adobe is making lots of money and have become greedy.

 

 

 

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[jaapv]

Using obsolete software on an M1 computer is rather useless, too much of a hassle even with Rosetta2. Why don't you use Affinity?  Or any of the other methods mentioned here...

https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360015368077-Border-around-image

[Anbaric]

2 hours ago, tobey bilek said:

Needing borders and not wanting to move files from one to another,  I called Adobe for a copy of my PERPETUAL license CS 6.  Too old. Perpetual does not mean forever.

When you say 'my', does that mean you have a licence and just need the installer? Assuming you have a compatible computer and OS, you could try registering the serial number to an Adobe account if you haven't already done so, and see if that makes the installer available via that account:

https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install/kb/downloaded-older-app.html

You may also be able to download the old trial version installer and activate it as the full version using your product key:

https://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cs6-direct-download-links.html

But I don't think any of these solutions will work on an M1 Mac.

Edited April 21, 2022 by Anbaric

[Jeff S]

I pay US $10 a month for LR Classic and Photoshop combined, under the Photography Plan. All updates included.  I don't use any cloud storage (it's not mandated, thankfully). I used to pay roughly as much when I bought each separately and paid for upgrades.  And a fraction of what I used to spend in darkroom days on various expenses.  

A bargain.  Wish I got the same bang for the buck for my other photo expenses.

Jeff

Edited April 22, 2022 by Jeff S

[Erato]

I am Adobe Photoshop long time user since 2.0 until CS 6.

That's it and that's all.

[Jeff S]

8 hours ago, tobey bilek said:

Now the good part.  For fun I looked up price of  CC and now is double the price of $10 monthly unless you double up with Creative Cloud.  I do not need it.  Financials show Adobe is making lots of money and have become greedy.

 

 

 

Cloud storage is not mandated (see my post above). One can still get LR and Photoshop for the same $10 per month without any cloud storage required. Simple.

Jeff

[250swb]

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6 hours ago, Jeff S said:

I pay US $10 a month for LR Classic and Photoshop combined, under the Photography Plan. All updates included.  I don't use any cloud storage (it's not mandated, thankfully). I used to pay roughly as much when I bought each separately and paid for upgrades.  And a fraction of what I used to spend in darkroom days on various expenses.  

A bargain.  Wish I got the same bang for the buck for my other photo expenses.

Jeff

+1

I was sceptical at first but given the price works out anyway compared with buying the old upgrades the big plus is now is it's all seamless, and like you I don't touch the Cloud.

[stuny]

When I called Adobe a few months ago to see if they could do anything for me regarding the no longer supported CS3 that I needed only for Contribute to update text and new text pages on our site, they were unable to help me, which though disappointing, was understandable.  What was not acceptable was the agent then assiduously tried to sell me new s/w that didn't do what i wanted it to do.  After a few minutes of pointed questioning, he finally admitted the s/w he was pushing would not meet my needs.  Had I bought it and complained I wonder if they would have refunded my money?

[ejg1890]

11 hours ago, Jeff S said:

I pay US $10 a month for LR Classic and Photoshop combined, under the Photography Plan. All updates included.  I don't use any cloud storage (it's not mandated, thankfully). I used to pay roughly as much when I bought each separately and paid for upgrades.  And a fraction of what I used to spend in darkroom days on various expenses.  

Agreed.  I believe the photography plan is a great deal; Lightroom Classic, Lightroom Desktop (web), Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop and cloud storage (limited) with all photos sync’d across all these applications across all devices.  

My workflow - Import photos into Lightroom Mobile on my ipad, photos are replicated to the cloud and available to all devices/programs, Download files from the cloud onto my laptop/external storage, periodic back up of external device. This way for a period of time I have photos on the card, ipad, cloud and laptop/external device until backup on an external drive.

I have looked at other options and there just isn’t anything that offers this convenience. And all this at $10/month with regular monthly updates.  (Not sure I want to say I too loud!!!!)

[marchyman]

23 hours ago, tobey bilek said:

Needing borders and not wanting to move files from one to another

If you are on a Mac borders are easily added on Capture One export using a combination of  Automator and free software.  Probably easy on a Windows machine, too, but since I don't use Windows I never bothered figuring out how.

Anyway, the key is to install the ImageMagick suite of programs then create an Automator "app" that Capture One calls after exporting an image.  I posted the instructions on the Capture One forum when the question was asked about a year ago, probably in the Capture One 21 section.

[250swb]

@tobey bilekNik Suite now runs in Capture One and you can add a vast array of borders (and customise your own) in both Color Efex or the Silver Efex programmes.

Edited April 23, 2022 by 250swb

[M11 for me]

The name Lightroom is tricky:

"Lightroom" is the new tool using the cloud. You have to store your pictures in the cloud. As an advantage you have access from all devices (incl. Lightroom Classic). Then there is "Lightroom Classic" which does not use cloud. Your images are stored on your computer or however you are organised. And the "lighroom Classic" programm is the tool for the pros. The cloud version (Lightroom) is far away from the classic version. Still when using Adobe CC which is part of the €10/month you have all these programs included plus constantly updated (Lightroom, Lighroom Classic, Photoshop plus others).

 

Edited April 23, 2022 by M11 for me

[Adam Bonn]

Recent convert to CC from many years on LR6 (I went to Mac, so LR6 not an option)

As mentioned above, no need to touch the cloud… I got two (might have been 3) months free from flickr, then it settled into £10.44pm for a month before I found twelve months for £89.99 on Amazon (which was €100* on Amazon Spain, which I should’ve gone with as that’s even cheaper)

That’s £7.50 a month. A bit sucky in that before I paid £120 for LR6 and didn’t need to change it for 4.5 years (£2.22pm!)… but really seven quid a month won’t break me and the new version of LR is so much better, faster and featured filled than the old one I haven’t cared about the expense.

I get not everyone likes to work with adobe products, but if you do… CC is an easy decision IMHO.

 

(*I basically live in 2 countries)