maxpower Posted April 12, 2022 Share #21 Posted April 12, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, Photoworks said: You can find an option of "Apply Camera Keystone Data". Don't aspect it to work with your Leica. Only works with Phaseone cameras Yeah I tried to contact them about that but haven't heard anything yet. I'm starting to wonder if there is a way to create this functionality with an AppleScript, same as I have a script (that I found somewhere with google) that helps to apply the digital zoom cropping data from the raw files in CaptureOne. But I wouldn't know where to start trying that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leica Land Posted April 12, 2022 Share #22 Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) You can use Leica M11 PC as a guide for framing and use auto Keystone correction (Both the vertical and Horizontal correction) . But NOT the APPLY CAMERA KEYSTONE DATA it is only for the Phase One back . It will not response to other camera system. Edited April 12, 2022 by Leica Land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted April 12, 2022 Share #23 Posted April 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, maxpower said: Yeah I tried to contact them about that but haven't heard anything yet. I'm starting to wonder if there is a way to create this functionality with an AppleScript, same as I have a script (that I found somewhere with google) that helps to apply the digital zoom cropping data from the raw files in CaptureOne. But I wouldn't know where to start trying that interesting.. maybe phase one forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmen Posted April 15, 2022 Share #24 Posted April 15, 2022 Alternatively… Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/331258-perspective-control/?do=findComment&comment=4418991'>More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted July 9, 2022 Share #25 Posted July 9, 2022 What I realized recently on my M11 is that the perspective control is always ON. Even when it is set to OFF in the camera menu. When importing with "Adobe Standard" or "Camera settings" then the images that are taken with ON show the controlled perspective immediately. The photos that I took with PC OFF show that perspective control only when I click the ikon "Transform" in Lightroom Classic. Is that the intention or is this a bug? Its actually not too bad at all as it is implemented now: When I get the impression that I would like to alter the perspective in Lightroom and when I realized that there is an immediate proposal that comes originally from the camera then there is nothing against that. I am always able to put in my own settings if I which. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted July 9, 2022 Share #26 Posted July 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Al Brown said: It is embedded per default. Always there, so you can leave it OFF unless you shoot JPGs and/or want to see the results in camera straight away. The ON setting seems to serve the latter. The perspective control data is always just a click away in LR/ACR. To me, this seems intentional and by no means a bug. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It does not work for me when it is off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 9, 2022 Share #27 Posted July 9, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 hours ago, M11 for me said: What I realized recently on my M11 is that the perspective control is always ON. Even when it is set to OFF in the camera menu. When importing with "Adobe Standard" or "Camera settings" then the images that are taken with ON show the controlled perspective immediately. The photos that I took with PC OFF show that perspective control only when I click the ikon "Transform" in Lightroom Classic. Is that the intention or is this a bug? Its actually not too bad at all as it is implemented now: When I get the impression that I would like to alter the perspective in Lightroom and when I realized that there is an immediate proposal that comes originally from the camera then there is nothing against that. I am always able to put in my own settings if I which. All M cameras that support PC always store the two angles necessary for perspective correction in the DNG. Turning PC on shows the PC frame in the camera and automatically applies PC with appropriate import setting (Adobe only). I turn PC on only when I need to frame in EVF or LCD. I usually have it off and apply correction in the post only when appropriate. I really appreciate that the angle information is always stored in DNGs. This approach is unique to some digital M’s and helps with image quality. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 9, 2022 Share #28 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Photoworks said: It does not work for me when it is off Are you saying that with the PC is off in M11 and using the latest Adobe software you cannot apply PC in Lightroom Classic or ACR? (select Transform panel and press Guided button) It works for me. Edited July 9, 2022 by SrMi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted July 9, 2022 Share #29 Posted July 9, 2022 vor 35 Minuten schrieb SrMi: All M cameras that support PC always store the two angles necessary for perspective correction in the DNG. Turning PC on shows the PC frame in the camera and automatically applies PC with appropriate import setting (Adobe only). I turn PC on only when I need to frame in EVF or LCD. I usually have it off and apply correction in the post only when appropriate. I really appreciate that the angle information is always stored in DNGs. This approach is unique to some digital M’s and helps with image quality. I support your arguments. Of course it is true that one could make the PC in post only. But often the photographer has to see exactly what is in the frame and what is outside. For this its essential to switch the PC "on" in order to see if the full steeple of the church is in the image. In post its too late when I realise that the full steeple is in the image but by no way can I set the lines strait without cutting the top of the building. I use the PC-function a lot and put it ("PC on") onto the FN button (ideal for use with Visoflex). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted July 10, 2022 Share #30 Posted July 10, 2022 9 hours ago, SrMi said: Are you saying that with the PC is off in M11 and using the latest Adobe software you cannot apply PC in Lightroom Classic or ACR? (select Transform panel and press Guided button) It works for me. it is strange. some time it works and other times is does not. tested on 6bit lenses and not. shooting with PC on in live view the line came up. the JEPG looks corrected, the RAW does not load any correction data in Lr or ACR. Sometimes when it does the correction the line are not parallel . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/331258-perspective-control/?do=findComment&comment=4468378'>More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 10, 2022 Share #31 Posted July 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Photoworks said: it is strange. some time it works and other times is does not. tested on 6bit lenses and not. shooting with PC on in live view the line came up. the JEPG looks corrected, the RAW does not load any correction data in Lr or ACR. Sometimes when it does the correction the line are not parallel . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I need to double check, but IIRC, ACR can modify the DNG which sometimes lead to the irreversible removal of the PC data. I hope to run some tests tomorrow. There should be no such issue with Lightroom Classic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 10, 2022 Share #32 Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Photoworks said: it is strange. some time it works and other times is does not. tested on 6bit lenses and not. shooting with PC on in live view the line came up. the JEPG looks corrected, the RAW does not load any correction data in Lr or ACR. Sometimes when it does the correction the line are not parallel . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have tried ACR and did not find any issues. Which ACR version are you using? AFAIK, it is expected that some lines should not be parallel. When making all lines parallel, the image can look unnatural. That is the problem when doing manual transformations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted July 11, 2022 Share #33 Posted July 11, 2022 17 hours ago, SrMi said: I have tried ACR and did not find any issues. Which ACR version are you using? AFAIK, it is expected that some lines should not be parallel. When making all lines parallel, the image can look unnatural. That is the problem when doing manual transformations. ACR and LrC are all up to date.. "some lines should not be parallel" ok but in the preview in camera is was showing quite good corrected and in ACR was a little off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 11, 2022 Share #34 Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Photoworks said: ACR and LrC are all up to date.. "some lines should not be parallel" ok but in the preview in camera is was showing quite good corrected and in ACR was a little off I see. Will run some tests saving both JPGs and DNGs and compare the difference with PC on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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