Jeff S Posted January 31, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 31, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, MikeMyers said: On a side note, the session was hours long, but I enjoyed every minute to it - until my network connection died about 10 minutes before they finished. I learned a lot, am even more interested in the M11 now than ever, but they pointed out that the big thing was to be out there using a Leica, and that it didn't need to be the very latest model. I'm still using my M10, and love it, more than I ever expected I would. It's like the M2 that I grew up with, but with the benefits of digital. I used to shoot HDR images, with many cameras, bracketing, and using Photomatix for the stitching. I'd like to know how to do this new single-shot-HDR for when/if the opportunity arises. These Camera Talk sessions are two hours long, with 30-40 episodes over the last two years, covering virtually all Leica gear, old and new, all of which are archived and time stamped on their site. One can hibernate and watch for days… or just go out and make pics for even better learning. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnbuckley Posted January 31, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, mediumformula said: No. It was just a normal shot and he was showing how much latitude there was in the image to allow him to bring shadows out of underexposed areas using Lightroom exposure sliders - ie. metering for highlights and bringing out shadows in post. He was just colloquially calling it "single shot HDR" but not using that as a term of art. Why don't you go back and re-watch this section on the Youtube video of the livestream. If you’ve ever downloaded any of David’s LR presets - for the SL2 in particular - his processing approach is to, first, pull down exposure to approximately -80, pull down highlights to -80 and push up shadows to +80, bring up whites and bring down blacks proportionally. It’s not a terrible way to start - and when you bring up exposure you have a more dynamic picture to work with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 31, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, johnbuckley said: If you’ve ever downloaded any of David’s LR presets - for the SL2 in particular - his processing approach is to, first, pull down exposure to approximately -80, pull down highlights to -80 and push up shadows to +80, bring up whites and bring down blacks proportionally. It’s not a terrible way to start - and when you bring up exposure you have a more dynamic picture to work with. In LrC, Exposure range is between -5 and + 5, -80 is not possible 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted January 31, 2022 Share #24 Posted January 31, 2022 I've updated to DxO PhotoLab, which fits me better. So, to get single-image HDR, do I save two edits from that image, one for highlights, and one for shadows, and then combine them in HDR software, such as Photomatix Pro? I thought there was a single tool that did all the HDR work for me, from a single image? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted January 31, 2022 Share #25 Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, T25UFO said: You can create HDR photo with the M10 and/or Q2 and/or SL2. In the drive menu just select exposure bracketing, choose 5 frames and 1 EV. It helps if you use a tripod, but not absolutely necessary. Then use Lightroom to combine the five images and you will have one very large DNG file. Other than for the Lightroom part, that's what I've done for years with most of my cameras. Maybe things have changed, but Photomatix 6 offered a lot more HDR tools, some of which I found were helpful - this back when I was still using Lightroom. https://www.hdrsoft.com 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 31, 2022 Share #26 Posted January 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, MikeMyers said: I've updated to DxO PhotoLab, which fits me better. So, to get single-image HDR, do I save two edits from that image, one for highlights, and one for shadows, and then combine them in HDR software, such as Photomatix Pro? I thought there was a single tool that did all the HDR work for me, from a single image? Its not technically HDR...he simply adjusted the highlights and shadows in a single image. You can do this in any software. Just raise your shadows 100% and lower your highlights 100% and you will see what we are describing. Then adjust each to the scene including the exposure setting. Thats all...no magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 31, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 31, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, MikeMyers said: I've updated to DxO PhotoLab, which fits me better. So, to get single-image HDR, do I save two edits from that image, one for highlights, and one for shadows, and then combine them in HDR software, such as Photomatix Pro? I thought there was a single tool that did all the HDR work for me, from a single image? You would do it from the DNG. but I don't think any of the DxO programs support opening the raw files of the Leica Cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted January 31, 2022 Share #28 Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Photoworks said: You would do it from the DNG. but I don't think any of the DxO programs support opening the raw files of the Leica Cameras I don't know about the M11, but DxO PhotoLab works fine with the M10 dng images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus2000 Posted January 31, 2022 Share #29 Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Photoworks said: You would do it from the DNG. but I don't think any of the DxO programs support opening the raw files of the Leica Cameras They support many Leica cameras now, including M10, M10-P and M10-D. They say M10-R will be supported by Q1 2022, so maybe at some point M11 will be supported as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted January 31, 2022 Share #30 Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, SrMi said: In LrC, Exposure range is between -5 and + 5, -80 is not possible Yes, I should have written “-0.80.” Responses like the one quoted here are why, after being a member of the forum since 2003, I spend so little here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 31, 2022 Share #31 Posted January 31, 2022 correct. no M10-R, M11 ( probably to new, but does not ever read the embedded format, what any other DNG program does) no SL2, Sl2s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus2000 Posted January 31, 2022 Share #32 Posted January 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, johnbuckley said: Yes, I should have written “-0.80.” Responses like the one quoted here are why, after being a member of the forum since 2003, I spend so little here. First of all thank you very much for telling us about David’s LR presets, I will try the approach and see if it works for me. But, if you allow me, I think there is no need to be offended by someone highlighting a minor mistake. I had the same question in my mind as I was trying to understand your post, and I was going to ask you actually if you meant -0.8 stops. Thanks again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 31, 2022 Share #33 Posted January 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, johnbuckley said: Yes, I should have written “-0.80.” Responses like the one quoted here are why, after being a member of the forum since 2003, I spend so little here. Thank you for the clarification. I really do not understand how my post could offend anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 31, 2022 Share #34 Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Photoworks said: correct. no M10-R, M11 ( probably to new, but does not ever read the embedded format, what any other DNG program does) no SL2, Sl2s DxO will likely never support Monochroms. And they’re generally late to the party for other Leica models. No thanks. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted February 1, 2022 Share #35 Posted February 1, 2022 One more tip from the Live video...this Anker 40w charger will charge the M11 via USB-C twice as fast as the Leica Battery Charger. My new travel charger. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329234-reddotforum-live-m11-deeper-look-stream/?do=findComment&comment=4373418'>More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 1, 2022 Share #36 Posted February 1, 2022 Yes, but the battery will probably last longer if not charged at such a high rate - they also explained that. If you need the batter in a hurry though, that's a awesome! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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