shirubadanieru Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, pippy said: Also note the differences in the frontal light-baffles (or lack thereof) between the v2 in Andy's post (above) and the pair seen in Arnaud's posts #7 and #19... Philip. Interesting!! My lens serial is from 1970 and definitely has a filter thread ahah I had no idea that v2 also has batches without one. Here’s a picture of it where you can clearly see the filter thread (and serial). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 15, 2022 by shirubadanieru 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4356625'>More sharing options...
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pippy Posted January 15, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 15, 2022 I suspect that the 'baffle-ring' can be un-screwed (to allow the lens to be dismantled for repair) so perhaps the lenses in posts #7 & #19 have had theirs removed at some point? Having a look on the web the majority pictured seem to have this part fitted (including some more in the #2446XXX range) but I'm not going to suggest you attempt to dismantle you own lens just out of curiosity! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdolzani Posted January 15, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 15, 2022 Hi all, sorry I'm late! Mine does have the filter thread, 1969 serial #, and I use the 12585H hood which may not be literally the 'original', but I believe it's one that's most easily found these days. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4356718'>More sharing options...
84bravo Posted January 15, 2022 Share #24 Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, shirubadanieru said: Interesting!! My lens serial is from 1970 and definitely has a filter thread ahah I had no idea that v2 also has batches without one. Here’s a picture of it where you can clearly see the filter thread (and serial). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I've never seen a chrome version of this lens. I imagine its quite rare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share #25 Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, 84bravo said: I've never seen a chrome version of this lens. I imagine its quite rare. This lens was a repaint done by Kanto; I’ve handled several lenses / cameras repainted by Kanto, and although I just don’t quite enjoy their black paint (too shiny / too thick?) their chrome repaints are just beautiful. This lens in chrome looks really nice 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 16, 2022 Share #26 Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, 84bravo said: I've never seen a chrome version of this lens. I imagine its quite rare. I've never seen one in 'real life' either but according to the Wiki link (post #18); "Versions : Chrome from 2316001; Wetzlar (rare) and ELC..." ...but as bdolzani's (black) lens in post #25 has serial number 2316218 I'm not sure whether the chrome version is REALLY rare (c. 200 units?!) or whether the batch(es?) from 2316XXX onwards contained a mix of chrome and black lenses (mixed between ELC and Wetzlar?). The Wiki link would benefit from some clarification. Philip. Edited January 16, 2022 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted January 16, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 16, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) As a big fan of the 6e 40:2, I’m interested in this lens. What differentiates the v2 and v3 if they are the same 6e formulae optically ? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted January 16, 2022 Share #28 Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, grahamc said: As a big fan of the 6e 40:2, I’m interested in this lens. What differentiates the v2 and v3 if they are the same 6e formulae optically ? Thanks Many mysteries to clear out depending on sources. Simple way but not always right, to see if the lens is II or III Lever (II) or ring (III) to set aperture. However... Some says that the optical cell has gain an air element between the second and third lens (first glued group not glued anymore), to be verified. We can see here bigger front lens on III smaller front lens on II Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I ...II...III IV Canada, IV Wetzlar Edited January 16, 2022 by a.noctilux 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I ...II...III IV Canada, IV Wetzlar ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4357702'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted January 18, 2022 Shot with M9, street shots at F11 and Self-portrait at F2 (heavily cropped as well) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4359975'>More sharing options...
Runkel Posted January 19, 2022 Share #30 Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 3:46 AM, grahamc said: As a big fan of the 6e 40:2, I’m interested in this lens. What differentiates the v2 and v3 if they are the same 6e formulae optically ? Thanks Erwin Puts, in his Leica Lens Compendium, has this to say about how v3 differs from v2: "A Midland redesign of the six element version, still with the same number of glass elements, brought some improvement in overall contrast. specifically on axis. In the field the performance drops significantly and is somewhat below that of the previous [v2] six element design. The optical design uses different glass types and the second group has a very small airlens, where the first version[ v2] was cemented. Flare tendency is reduced compared to the previous designs. Vignetting is lower with less than 2 stops, but now some distortion is visible. Generally however, these differences in fingerprint are low and will be visible only in direct comparison. This lens has a few millimetres more length to make the reading of the numbers on the rings easier." I have a very clean copy (no thread version) and really like it for rendering, handling and build. I have had a v4 and a 35 lux pre-FLE in the past and have not compared the v2 to those. I tested my 12585 hood and thought there was minor mechanical vignetting. So I got a 12504 and have been happy with that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share #31 Posted January 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Runkel said: Erwin Puts, in his Leica Lens Compendium, has this to say about how v3 differs from v2: "A Midland redesign of the six element version, still with the same number of glass elements, brought some improvement in overall contrast. specifically on axis. In the field the performance drops significantly and is somewhat below that of the previous [v2] six element design. The optical design uses different glass types and the second group has a very small airlens, where the first version[ v2] was cemented. Flare tendency is reduced compared to the previous designs. Vignetting is lower with less than 2 stops, but now some distortion is visible. Generally however, these differences in fingerprint are low and will be visible only in direct comparison. This lens has a few millimetres more length to make the reading of the numbers on the rings easier." I have a very clean copy (no thread version) and really like it for rendering, handling and build. I have had a v4 and a 35 lux pre-FLE in the past and have not compared the v2 to those. I tested my 12585 hood and thought there was minor mechanical vignetting. So I got a 12504 and have been happy with that. Reading this, it seems that the V2 is a better option? The ‘upgrades’ are in areas where I don’t quite feel the need to improve, and I rather have a lens that vignettes a little, with the benefit of keeping less contrast (I can add it if I want) and no distortion (the most important for me in a 35mm lens as I also do use it for portraits). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted January 21, 2022 Shared this in the M11 section but sharing it here too. I just put this lens on the M11 and they go really well together, it looks beautiful to my eyes. Waiting for the battery to charge to go out and test it out with this new sensor : ) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4362993'>More sharing options...
Lux50 Posted January 21, 2022 Share #33 Posted January 21, 2022 I bought my 35/2 Summicron V2 new in early 1972 & it was the first Leitz lens I bought new. My previous ones had all been used. It has the 39mm threads & I have always used the 12504 lens hood. Makes for a very compact package on my M cameras. Mine is currently on my M4 BP & I just used it to make a couple of snaps today. I have been pleased with the images this lens has given me for 50 years.👍 I also like the look of the images it gives me on my M Monochrom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrox1 Posted January 21, 2022 Share #34 Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) I also like it very much on the M monochrom... it never really worked on digital color M cameras for me however. i think it is one of the best lens for street photography... very light, very small, very sharp after f/4. you can almost put the M in your pocket. not a lot of contrast, especially with the monochrom v1, but that can be added in lightroom easily. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Preparing for the roller coaster Edited January 21, 2022 by karrox1 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Preparing for the roller coaster ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4363851'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share #35 Posted January 22, 2022 Fresh out of the oven Leica M11 with V2 Shot wide open, the lens flare when shot against the sun is just beautiful! Love the sun stars too! The other two are shot at golden hour at around f5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4364238'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share #36 Posted February 5, 2022 TriX and 35mm 6e V2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4376859'>More sharing options...
ymc226 Posted February 7, 2022 Share #37 Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 10:31 PM, shirubadanieru said: TriX and 35mm 6e V2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Are those Hello Kitty pedestrian barriers officially approved by the city? 😅 My wife would enjoy this photo very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share #38 Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ymc226 said: Are those Hello Kitty pedestrian barriers officially approved by the city? 😅 My wife would enjoy this photo very much. ahah yeah, everything is cute here in Japan Feel free to share with her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share #39 Posted February 7, 2022 Another cute one! shot with M11 at f8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4378384'>More sharing options...
lebanese blonde Posted August 6, 2022 Share #40 Posted August 6, 2022 Great thread about a very special lens. I love it on my M6 but on digital it`s kinda love and hate relationship. On my M240 this lens can be pretty unpredictable concerning the glow. I like the size, the handling and the sharpness but i don't like the unpredictable glow and the pretty strong vignetting. Leica M240, Summicron 35mm v2 (1970), my dog Emma, Mastin Labs Pan F Preset Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328366-the-underrated-summicron-35mm-6-elements-version-2/?do=findComment&comment=4484190'>More sharing options...
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