28 that renders in fashion similar to 35 pre-ASPH Summilux?

[KFo]

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I've been enjoying my 35 pre-ASPH Summilux quite a bit.  I like the cine look that my copy has been yielding, and I'm getting a handle on what it does in various conditions.

This said, I've always enjoyed working with the 28mm prospective.  I've got a "whole grip of 28s" (2-crons, an elmarit, and a new version summaron).  All lovely lenses and each fills a niche in my work.  But none render anything like the 35 P-A!

Is there a 28 that yields that glow?  I'm not a snob, so I'd buy any lens that draws in a similar way.

Edited January 12, 2022 by KFo

[adli]

 

Are you asking about the cron or the lux?

 

[KFo]

7 minutes ago, adli said:

 

Are you asking about the cron or the lux?

 

Oh crap!  I forgot about the cron.  I'm asking about the Lux pre-A.  Edited the question to be more clear....

Thanks!

[Tp2000]

Love the 28mm focal length too….have had cron previously and have the lux and summaron now. Neither give you what you’re after - however the lux wide open is an absolutely stunning lens. There was a post just before Christmas on this. Worth a quick search and there are a few example pictures in there. 
 

The only other lens I can think of that gets you a little nearer the rendering of a 35mm PA might be the v1 voigtlander 28mm ultron. Still a modern lens, but less contrasty than a cron and little more (only just) “glowy”. 
 

But that’s entirely subjective….but I do keep coming back to that lens as it renders differently to others and I just like it. 
 

However you’d have to prise the 28mm ‘lux out of my cold dead hands - that’s my overall favourite 28mm which has the most beautiful rendering.

[Capuccino-Muffin]

28mm elmarit V1, 9-element. Highly collectible.

[rtai]

The 35mm Summilux Pre-A is a special lens, absolutely incomparable at F1.4 and F2.0. You can get a similar DOF with the 28mm Summilux but still it is a technically perfect lens at f1.4 akin to the 35mm Summilux Asph Pre-FLE. I think if you introduce some defect into the 28mm Summilux ala Sally Mann it can replicate the look.

[caloosajo]

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MS Optics 28 f2 pancake seems pretty glowy. There are some examples on Japan Camera Hunter’s site. 
 

“But is it Leica glow…”

[Guest]

The elmarit f2.8 version 2 [1972-1979] is about as close as you will get with a leica lens .

I own one and like using it for people pics especially as it has that slightly old fashioned rendering near maximum aperture ,it also flares in a nice controlled way shooting into the light.

I would imagine its sharper wide open than the old summilux which was a more ambitious design.

[adan]

18 hours ago, KFo said:

Is there a 28 that yields that glow?

Cosina/Voigtlander Ultron f/1.9 has glow and low contrast at f/1.9-2.0 similar to the 35 pre-lux at f/1.4. And then cleans up at smaller apertures, just like the 35 pre-lux.

It's a year-2000 lens in Leica screw-mount, easily adaptable to M with a simple ring. Do not confuse with the later M-mount f/2.0 C/V 28mm lenses. Not the same at all.

Some more info here - although I think Rockwell is overcritical of the handling, which I found to be perfectly fine for the size (which goes with the fast, glowy f/1.9 aperture - physics and all that).

https://kenrockwell.com/voigtlander/28mm-f19.htm

Edited January 13, 2022 by adan

[shirubadanieru]

Easy answer: no Lens renders like the 35 lux pre-asph, period  

I’ve tried all LTM Leica 28mm, even their first, the Hektor 28mm has no glow. Still has a lovely, classical rendering that might be worth checking out. Similarly, the Summaron 28mm is a contender, but again no glow to be seen here. 

[rtai]

On 1/12/2022 at 9:51 PM, adan said:

Cosina/Voigtlander Ultron f/1.9 has glow and low contrast at f/1.9-2.0 similar to the 35 pre-lux at f/1.4. And then cleans up at smaller apertures, just like the 35 pre-lux.

It's a year-2000 lens in Leica screw-mount, easily adaptable to M with a simple ring. Do not confuse with the later M-mount f/2.0 C/V 28mm lenses. Not the same at all.

Some more info here - although I think Rockwell is overcritical of the handling, which I found to be perfectly fine for the size (which goes with the fast, glowy f/1.9 aperture - physics and all that).

https://kenrockwell.com/voigtlander/28mm-f19.htm

I had forgotten about the original Voigtlander LTM 28mm f1.9 because I was only thinking about Leica lenses. That 28mm Ultron at max aperture I agree is most similar to the Pre-A. 

[KFo]

I'm having a look at the Ultron V1.  Reid reviews has  a review that includes that lens.  I'm not certain that it is exactly what I'm imagining but the cost of entry is low enough that I will find one and give it a go.

Thanks for the tips!