New MP rewind knob is difficult to turn

[jackbaty]

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4 hours ago, kivis said:

I had this problem on my M-A. Happened to watch a you tube on how to load film on the M-A and realized I was loading the film wrong (In my defense I was only proficient at the old style film loading (M3)). I was jamming the film leader into the quick connect spool instead of just letting it take care of it on its own. Voila, rewind works like a dream. My two cents.

I've botched film loading many times! In this case, however, the problem was a defect and has been fixed. I do find that just simply trusting the take-up to do its magic is the right way to load film, but it can be hard to resist the temptation to "help" it along

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[jackbaty]

3 hours ago, tfyl said:

What about you mentioned that the rewind knob is tight to pull up and sometimes is  stuck in halfway,

was this fixed  by Leica as well?  or this is not treated as defect by Leica? thx

I have not noticed this problem since before sending the camera off, so unfortunately I can't say for sure if Leica did anything specific to address that. I did not mention it to them, either FWIW.

[tfyl]

3 hours ago, jackbaty said:

I have not noticed this problem since before sending the camera off, so unfortunately I can't say for sure if Leica did anything specific to address that. I did not mention it to them, either FWIW.

May be each brand new Leica film M is slight different than each other but within the tolerance? I bought brand new MP in 2004 and the rewind knob never got stuck in halfway and the rewind knob is most loosen one (of course 18 years old)  compare to my M-A, I have two M-A (black is mint and silver is pre-owned brand new when I bought, both have similar production dates in around 2019-2020) , the rewind knob of black one is neither loosen nor tight, it fits the best, I took around 20rolls and the rewind knob has not been stuck once, for silver one the rewind knob is tight to pull up, I took around 40 rolls and it was stuck couple times at halfway, just push the rewind knob back and turn it a bit and it can be pulled up entirely, I tested the rewind knob of silver one just to pull it up and it is stuck at halfway about 1 or 2 times out of 50 times, from actual use this issue never bothered me as I can fix it by turning the rewind knob a bit. For all these three M camera, the rewinding of the film are all very smooth, maybe each part of Leica film M is assembled by hands, for same part. some are tighten and some are loosen compare to one and each other  

Edited February 20, 2022 by tfyl

[jakontil]

On 2/20/2022 at 7:55 PM, jackbaty said:

I've botched film loading many times! In this case, however, the problem was a defect and has been fixed. I do find that just simply trusting the take-up to do its magic is the right way to load film, but it can be hard to resist the temptation to "help" it along

Give more trust and it will give you 2 more exposures most of the time at least 😂😂😂

[ianman]

On 2/20/2022 at 9:33 AM, kivis said:

I was jamming the film leader into the quick connect spool instead of just letting it take care of it on its own.

What do you mean by "jamming the film"? What were you doing?

I usually just drop the film in according to the illustration and make sure the sprockets aren't a million miles out of alignment... but on rare occasions it just doesn't take.

[4art]

Post is older but I also was a bit concerned on first roll rewound through my new mp. Comparing to years ago with a standard rewind crank this is definitely stiff. My fingers still hurt. I thought there was an issue as it seemed to take a lot of turns for 36 exposures. Heard film spool release thought I was done. Nope! Still a few cranks to go. Seems Leica should supply this as it’s a hard to find item. My knob pulls up fine.

[ianman]

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9 hours ago, 4art said:

My knob pulls up fine.

That’s good to know.

[pavelkim]

hello everyone,

I seem to have similar problem with my leica m-a.
Rewind was a tough thing to do, and I thought that's because everything is new or just different from my m4-p.

At some point I compared m4-p and m-a on a rewind process with the bottom cover open. The tulip spool is always locked and won't rotate back on m-a (I can actually advance the shutter by rotating the tulip spool, and it gets locked both ways after that). Whereas on m4-p it's not locked and rotates freely never mind the R lever position.

On both cameras the advance gear gets loose as expected when R lever is down (in the rewind mode). So, it looks like the problem only with the tulip spool.

Anybody found a quick fix for that by any chance? Otherwise I'll have to go to the closest Leica service centre.

 

Edited March 11, 2024 by pavelkim