mixtape Posted December 31, 2021 Share #1 Posted December 31, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) ***english version below*** Guten Morgen, ich bin seit gestern Abend mit der Q2 unterwegs und habe eine Frage die ich leider selbst nicht klären kann. Auch die schelle Forensuche hat mir jetzt nicht sofort weitergeholfen, daher erlaubt mir die kurze Frage: gibt es eine Möglichkeit ohne das LCDisplay zu verwenden die Belichtungszeit in kleineren Schritten auszuwählen als auf dem Einstellrad vorhanden? zB um 1/400 einzustellen? Danke für eure Hilfe. Gruß, m --- Good morning, since yesterday evening I am running with the Q2 and I have a question that I've not been able to solve myself. Even the community search didnt help me, so please let me ask you this short question. Is there any way without using the LCDisplay to use other expsure time steps not shown on the wheel, like 1/400? Appreciate your help. Cheers, m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted December 31, 2021 Share #2 Posted December 31, 2021 Set the camera to A and use exposure compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixtape Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted January 1, 2022 ty jaapv, so this is the only way? no button which setting i havent found yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 1, 2022 Share #4 Posted January 1, 2022 I am fully with you: I am missing the same options as I have with the Leica M. And I hope that this will come back to the Q in future models. For the time being there is just the option with automatic mode. I dislike that a lot but the Q evidently works like that. The logic is: Instead of adjusting the exposure time you adjust the compensation. Of course it works very well but its not how my brain works. Normally you read only very positive things about the handling of the Q. I know. I personally mange well but I do not like how it works. I like (and always liked) Canon and I love the Leica M. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 1, 2022 The M and electronic cameras have a completely different user interface in Leica's concept. This is not an optical viewfinder camera, but sn EVF one. The idea is to activate the Histogram in the viewfinder and achieve precise exposure using EV compensation. On the M one uses the two red arrows in combination with the aperture ring for the purpose. Exactly the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixtape Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted January 1, 2022 vor 31 Minuten schrieb M10 for me: I am fully with you: I am missing the same options as I have with the Leica M. And I hope that this will come back to the Q in future models. For the time being there is just the option with automatic mode. I dislike that a lot but the Q evidently works like that. The logic is: Instead of adjusting the exposure time you adjust the compensation. Of course it works very well but its not how my brain works. Normally you read only very positive things about the handling of the Q. I know. I personally mange well but I do not like how it works. I like (and always liked) Canon and I love the Leica M. vor 3 Minuten schrieb jaapv: The M and electronic cameras have a completely different user interface in Leica's concept. This is not an optical viewfinder camera, but sn EVF one. The idea is to activate the Histogram in the viewfinder and achieve precise exposure using EV compensation. On the M one uses the two red arrows in combination with the aperture ring for the purpose. Exactly the other way around. Good morning yeah I know what you mean. I worked as a professional sports photographer for a few years on Canon and then switched to Nikon, using D4 Bodies and a bag full of lenses. So you can imagine that it's not easy to find a small every day system that covers many of the needs you had before. After retiring I wanted a smaller, reliable camera that's been able to cover all the things I had before. So I bought a Sony R7MK4.... mh yeah. no, wrong decision. It's camera body, made for small handy, but too big for a camera you want to carry with you every day. And the lenses make it even worse. All good lenses that are similar to the 28mm/35mm equivalent are double the size of the leica pendant. So the sony ended up with 2500 clicks in 1,5 years. nothing. And I had to change my mind on all of this. Because what I want is a camera that I can use to just "click, click, click" in like semi automatic (Av/Tv), because setting the aperture and the iso was the way I was working most of the time, but also go fully manual when the camera is not able to do things right, because the scenery dosn't allow it, or distracts the camera. BUT I want to change the main values Aperture, Exposure Time and ISO with buttons, so I dont have to take my eyes of the viewfinder. that's key for me not to lose my focus while shoting, just because I need to change values. I have the Q2 now for two days. And I love it. It's small, but not to clumsy. It fits good into my hands and it's not overloaded with "features" nobody needs in a professional camera. In 99% of the way it's build you can feel why the design and development team did that. But there are a few small things, that I don't understand why they did this. Like the center button of the "arrow wheel". You can use the arrow buttons to move the focus field, but you need to double tap the display to center it. That's something I wish I just can change. I want to configure the center button of the arrow wheel to center the focus point, like on every other camera on the world. I dont want to take my eye of the evf and use the touch display to do that. And I just dont need to switch through the 3 display views. In my opinion this center button is wasted to a function that I easy can set in the settings menu for one time and thats it. Second is: I want the right thumb wheel to be configured to make the smaller exposure time steps. Like you can do it with the touch screen as wheel. So switch the camera to any exposure time you want and then chose the needed time with your thumb. Or set the time value to something thats close to what you need and step down or step up to exactly what you need. I mean, if I can do it with the display why not give the option to bind the function to a button/wheel? Thats Software, nothing more. Using the exposure compensation is just not the way you do this, it's not intuitive for someone that is used to give things names, for someone that knows how to exactly use his tools out there in the field, you know. But that's all. At the moment it feels like I have made the right decision. Even if it was a tough one Cheers, m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2022 Share #7 Posted January 1, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, mixtape said: Like the center button of the "arrow wheel". You can use the arrow buttons to move the focus field, but you need to double tap the display to center it. That's something I wish I just can change. I want to configure the center button of the arrow wheel to center the focus point, like on every other camera on the world. I dont want to take my eye of the evf and use the touch display to do that. And I just dont need to switch through the 3 display views. In my opinion this center button is wasted to a function that I easy can set in the settings menu for one time and thats it. Join the queue please... The end is two blocks back... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixtape Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted January 1, 2022 Gerade eben schrieb jaapv: Join the queue please... The end is two blocks back... sry I haven't managed to read als the threads in this community yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2022 Share #9 Posted January 1, 2022 Leica uses similar firmware and layouts for different models - especially the CL section is known for "wandering focus point" complaints, but plenty for the Q too However, you'll find that Leica has a habit of doing things their own way. Mostly its owners love it, but at times they can be annoyingly stubborn. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixtape Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted January 1, 2022 Gerade eben schrieb jaapv: Leica uses similar firmware and layouts for different models - especially the CL section is known for "wandering focus point" complaints. ok I see. Is there any feature request page (may from leica themselves) where Leica Users can transmit there features? I saw that you can send a feature request out if the iOS App for change requests for the app itself. if there's something similar for the cameras, I rly want to spend some time on this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2022 Share #11 Posted January 1, 2022 There is no such formal page, but you'll find plenty of threads. Leica does read this forum; they are well-embedded in the community. They also recruit beta-testers for new firmware here occasionally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixtape Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted January 1, 2022 vor 1 Minute schrieb jaapv: There is no such formal page, but you'll find plenty of threads. Leica does read this forum; they are well-embedded in the community. They also recruit beta-testers for new firmware here occasionally. perfect, I will go on a search for them. ty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 1, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 1, 2022 6 hours ago, jaapv said: The M and electronic cameras have a completely different user interface in Leica's concept. This is not an optical viewfinder camera, but sn EVF one. The idea is to activate the Histogram in the viewfinder and achieve precise exposure using EV compensation. On the M one uses the two red arrows in combination with the aperture ring for the purpose. Exactly the other way around. Histograms (and highlight warnings) are a great way to get better exposure, but they are not precise. Their clipping information may not correspond to raw file clipping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 1, 2022 Share #14 Posted January 1, 2022 On Q2, in manual mode, it is possible to select intermediate shutter speeds by turning the thumbwheel. For example, when you select 1/250, the thumbwheel allows selection of 1/160, 1/200, 1/250, 1/320, and 1/400. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixtape Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted January 1, 2022 vor 2 Minuten schrieb SrMi: On Q2, in manual mode, it is possible to select intermediate shutter speeds by turning the thumbwheel. For example, when you select 1/250, the thumbwheel allows selection of 1/160, 1/200, 1/250, 1/320, and 1/400. ffs! I know why that didnt work out for me, because I set the wheel to Exp. Compensation, not to "Auto" -.- ty for this! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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