rcusick Posted June 18, 2022 Share #321 Posted June 18, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, egrossman said: Debating what? Whether to keep the CV or the Elmarit? I have to say that this thread has piqued my interest in the CV 28 3.5 and 28 is not even my preferred focal length (35mm is)! I will wait until I get the $231 TT Artisan lens on Monday before deciding whether to spend 3x as much on the better CV lens. Erik I returned the Tt and and will use my elmarit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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egrossman Posted June 18, 2022 Share #322 Posted June 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, rcusick said: I returned the Tt and and will use my elmarit. I should have said that I own the 28mm Summilux. It's a lovely lens but rather large. I'm trying to figure out what the "perfect" travel 28mm lens is: 28mm Elmarit, 28mm Minolta G-rokkor, 28mm Color Skopar, TT Artisan 28mm/3.5 or 28mm Canon 28mm/3.5 LTM. Erik 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted June 18, 2022 Share #323 Posted June 18, 2022 None is perfect. You just should determine what characteristics you want and go from there. For instance I recently sold my Biogon and kept my TT because I don't use the 28 very often and I'm less concerned with larger apertures, typically shooting at f/5.6 or so, and size matters. YMMV. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 18, 2022 Share #324 Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, spydrxx said: None is perfect. You just should determine what characteristics you want and go from there. For instance I recently sold my Biogon and kept my TT because I don't use the 28 very often and I'm less concerned with larger apertures, typically shooting at f/5.6 or so, and size matters. YMMV. I have to say that I'm rather drawn to the 28mm Color Skopar but we shall see... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted June 18, 2022 Share #325 Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, egrossman said: I have to say that I'm rather drawn to the 28mm Color Skopar but we shall see... I thought about that one too, as I own the 35, but reviews on the Tt , pricing and availability got me looking first at theTt and I liked hat I saw. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life By Stills Posted June 18, 2022 Share #326 Posted June 18, 2022 Hi all, Hope you're all well and having a good weekend. I saw this thread and had a look at the lens on Amazon and am tempted. I just wanted to know though if you had to calibrate it yourself when you got it, as I know 7Artisans and TTArtisan lenses seem to require calibration yourself after buying. I know people have said it's quite easy, but I really hate doing fiddly stuff like that, so am hoping that it really doesn't need calibrating and is good straight out the box when using the rangefinder. Would love to hear your experiences of the lens in terms of out of box use without calibration. Many thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcusick Posted June 18, 2022 Share #327 Posted June 18, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 hours ago, egrossman said: I should have said that I own the 28mm Summilux. It's a lovely lens but rather large. I'm trying to figure out what the "perfect" travel 28mm lens is: 28mm Elmarit, 28mm Minolta G-rokkor, 28mm Color Skopar, TT Artisan 28mm/3.5 or 28mm Canon 28mm/3.5 LTM. Erik Funny... I have my 28m summilux up for sale. Its a wonderful lens but I never use it due to size. I keep coming back to the elmarit or 35 cron. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted June 18, 2022 Share #328 Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Life By Stills said: Hi all, Hope you're all well and having a good weekend. I saw this thread and had a look at the lens on Amazon and am tempted. I just wanted to know though if you had to calibrate it yourself when you got it, as I know 7Artisans and TTArtisan lenses seem to require calibration yourself after buying. I know people have said it's quite easy, but I really hate doing fiddly stuff like that, so am hoping that it really doesn't need calibrating and is good straight out the box when using the rangefinder. Would love to hear your experiences of the lens in terms of out of box use without calibration. Many thanks. I once had the TT 35/1.4 and needed calibration out of the box. As you, I was sceptic and afraid to mess it up. I ended successfully the process after 4 minutes, and a few drops of sweat 😅. Very easy! The TTA 28/5.6 is was perfect out of the box. From MFD to infinity. Be positive 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted June 18, 2022 Share #329 Posted June 18, 2022 My TTA 28/5.6 was perfect out of the box. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted June 18, 2022 Share #330 Posted June 18, 2022 My TTA 28/5.6 was spot on when it arrived. I thought I might need to tweak it, but was pleasantly surprised. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life By Stills Posted June 18, 2022 Share #331 Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dennis said: I once had the TT 35/1.4 and needed calibration out of the box. As you, I was sceptic and afraid to mess it up. I ended successfully the process after 4 minutes, and a few drops of sweat 😅. Very easy! The TTA 28/5.6 is was perfect out of the box. From MFD to infinity. Be positive 4 hours ago, Matlock said: My TTA 28/5.6 was perfect out of the box. 47 minutes ago, spydrxx said: My TTA 28/5.6 was spot on when it arrived. I thought I might need to tweak it, but was pleasantly surprised. Thanks for your replies, @Dennis, @Matlock, and @spydrxx. I will give the lens a go and order later tonight. The vignette seems less extreme than Leica's own Summaron-M at f/5.6 from what I have seen from sample photos and reviews. @Dennis - I'll see how I feel and if I want to bite the bullet and play with the 7A 35mm f/1.4 WEN again - last copy I got second hand didn't even focus to infinity, and the shop wasn't too sure how to adjust it either, so I just returned it. The other alternative is the Voitgländer 35mm f/1.4 Nokton II which wouldn't need adjusting lol. Edited June 18, 2022 by Life By Stills Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 18, 2022 Share #332 Posted June 18, 2022 10 hours ago, Life By Stills said: ...I just wanted to know though if you had to calibrate it yourself when you got it...Would love to hear your experiences of the lens in terms of out of box use without calibration... In common with answers posted by Dennis, Peter (Matlock) and spydrxx my TTA was 100% perfectly calibrated right out of the box. In fact the case mentioned by Lancashire (post #303) was the first time I've ever known of someone having a calibration problem with the TTA 28 f5.6. Personally speaking I'm having a great weekend so far; thanks for your good wishes to all which sentiment I return. Philip. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted June 19, 2022 Share #333 Posted June 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Life By Stills said: play with the 7A 35mm f/1.4 WEN again - The other alternative is the Voitgländer 35mm f/1.4 Nokton II I would say get the Nokton. It's a keeper and a wonderful 35mm. Modern or glowy (two lenses in one), depend on f/stop. Smaller and lighter, A joy to use. And great match for BW too, I feel. . And don't forget to post some snapshots you took with your new 28mm... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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erniethemilk Posted June 19, 2022 Share #335 Posted June 19, 2022 Mine came perfectly calibrated straight out of the box, which seems the case with most people who have them here. My only issue is remembering to change the lens profile in camera when I use it, something I’m constantly forgetting to do between that and the non coded 90mm I have. 🙄 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 23, 2022 Share #336 Posted June 23, 2022 Well the used copy of the TT Artisan 28mm lens that I received from B&H was a bust. What looked like veiling flare could be seen across the frame no matter how I took pictures with the lens. Back it went to B&H. Given that I already own the 28mm Summilux, I’m now considering either the 28mm Summaron or the 28mm Color Skopar 3.5. The Summaron is clearly known for it’s personality and rendering. The Skopar is sharp at any aperture, a stop faster and a third of the price used. Any opinions on what would pair better with the Summilux? Thanks Erik Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted June 23, 2022 Share #337 Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, egrossman said: Well the used copy of the TT Artisan 28mm lens that I received from B&H was a bust. What looked like veiling flare could be seen across the frame no matter how I took pictures with the lens. Back it went to B&H. Given that I already own the 28mm Summilux, I’m now considering either the 28mm Summaron or the 28mm Color Skopar 3.5. The Summaron is clearly known for it’s personality and rendering. The Skopar is sharp at any aperture, a stop faster and a third of the price used. Any opinions on what would pair better with the Summilux? Thanks Erik 28 Summaron rendering is somewhat different compared to something with a more traditionally-vintage rendering. You get nice, strong vignetting at f/5.6, soft corners, and no veiling flare that I could provoke. Central sharpness and contrast is high, matching the 28 Lux at ~f/4. It doesn’t really fit into either category, modern or vintage. The build quality fits the asking price, IMO. It’s a dense little brass lens, too — likes to try and roll away from you if you’re not careful mounting/unmounting. No experience with the CV. I also have the 28 Lux, and 95% of the time it stays at home or in the bag now that I have the Summaron. Edited June 23, 2022 by hdmesa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 23, 2022 Share #338 Posted June 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, hdmesa said: 28 Summaron rendering is somewhat different compared to something with a more traditionally-vintage rendering. You get nice, strong vignetting at f/5.6, soft corners, and no veiling flare that I could provoke. Central sharpness and contrast is high, matching the 28 Lux at ~f/4. It doesn’t really fit into either category, modern or vintage. The build quality fits the asking price, IMO. It’s a dense little brass lens, too — likes to try and roll away from you if you’re not careful mounting/unmounting. No experience with the CV. I also have the 28 Lux, and 95% of the time it stays at home or in the bag now that I have the Summaron. I just stopped by the Leica Store in San Francisco to check out the summaron in person. I was very impressed with regard to the build quality and surprised by just how heavy it was (relative to it’s size). On a separate note, I was shocked at just how small the 50mm Noctilux 1.2 Heritage was in person (I own the 1.0 v4 edition). Erik 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted June 24, 2022 Share #339 Posted June 24, 2022 I just ordered the TTA 28 5.6 in black. Could not resist the way it looks. Already have the 28 Summicron v2, the CV 28 3.5 (fantastic lens!) and the Orion 15 28 f6 (super lens!). If the TTA's performance is satisfactory (i.e. no weird veiling flare like egrossman reported above, and it focuses at infinity at hard stop) then I will most prob sell the Orion. The only thing I don't like about the Orion is the way you have to reach inside the lens to change the aperture. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 24, 2022 Share #340 Posted June 24, 2022 @Husscongrats on the black TTA. I'll be buying a 28mm Summaron sometime in the next few weeks ahead of a trip to London in early August (where I grew up). To me, the Summaron is an irresistible walkabout lens for my M10D. Erik 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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