JPEG Monochrome on M cameras

[SrMi]

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10 minutes ago, jaapv said:

My experience with Panasonic is limited to the  S5 which is supposed to have a thin cover glass and no AA filter. However, I shink that the shallow well depth of BSI sensors is of more importance.

Neither Sony a7rIV nor Nikon Z 7 have AA filters. Both have BSI sensors. The difference is that Z 7 has a much thinner glass. It seems to me that BSI does not matter in this context. AFAIK, all discussions describe sensor cover glass thickness as the main factor.
S5 has the same sensor as S1. I cannot find anywhere about the thickness of their cover glass. It seems logical that it is the same as S1R. 

[Guest]

I set the jpgs to monochrome so I can check focus using the EVF and focus peaking (red highlights show much better in monochrome).

I'm new (1 month at posting) to Leica M and rangefinders in general, so double checking my rangefinder focus with the EVF helps my confidence. Obviously I'm not shooting moving subjects.

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[Jeff S]

16 minutes ago, jaapv said:

I find it quite counterproductive. A monochrome image is essentially different from a colour one. How can you judge whther somebody wearing red clothes is upsetting the impact of your photograph? And it can - bright coulours draw the eye. I do think it is wise to set an EVF to B&W when the intention is to convert the image.

Not for me. I rely on experience. Not all pics work. M photography is all about the RF (and lenses/simplicity) for me.  Don’t even own the EVF. PP (and color filters with Monochroms) generally give me the flexibility I need. And with the SL2, I’m content to avoid monochrome viewing.  YMMV.

Jeff

[jaapv]

The topic is about EVF photography. I doubt whether anybody switches the OVF to B&W…

[jaapv]

23 minutes ago, SrMi said:

Neither Sony a7rIV nor Nikon Z 7 have AA filters. Both have BSI sensors. The difference is that Z 7 has a much thinner glass. It seems to me that BSI does not matter in this context. AFAIK, all discussions describe sensor cover glass thickness as the main factor.
S5 has the same sensor as S1. I cannot find anywhere about the thickness of their cover glass. It seems logical that it is the same as S1R. 

And it works very well with quite a few M lenses.. See the thread. 

[Jeff S]

12 minutes ago, jaapv said:

The topic is about EVF photography. I doubt whether anybody switches the OVF to B&W…

The point was I don’t need or want to under any circumstances, including with EVF.

Jeff

[SrMi]

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26 minutes ago, OThomas said:

I set the jpgs to monochrome so I can check focus using the EVF and focus peaking (red highlights show much better in monochrome).

I'm new (1 month at posting) to Leica M and rangefinders in general, so double checking my rangefinder focus with the EVF helps my confidence. Obviously I'm not shooting moving subjects.

Welcome to the world of rangefinders 😁.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, SrMi said:

Welcome to the world of rangefinders 😁.

Thanks 👍

[SrMi]

47 minutes ago, jaapv said:

I find it quite counterproductive. A monochrome image is essentially different from a colour one. How can you judge whther somebody wearing red clothes is upsetting the impact of your photograph? And it can - bright coulours draw the eye. I do think it is wise to set an EVF to B&W when the intention is to convert the image.

I assume that when shooting in color the final effect of red clothes will be defined in post (e.g., channel mixer). Therefore, I do not know if it is helpful to shoot in B&W mode unless JPGs are the final output. 

[jaapv]

13 minutes ago, Jeff S said:

The point was I don’t need or want to under any circumstances, including with EVF.

Jeff

I find it practical for visualization. 

[jaapv]

9 minutes ago, SrMi said:

I assume that when shooting in color the final effect of red clothes will be defined in post (e.g., channel mixer). Therefore, I do not know if it is helpful to shoot in B&W mode unless JPGs are the final output. 

But the effect is quite different between colour and B&W. I guess because I tend to use my Monochrom  for B&W which leaves me no choice anyway.