cboy Posted July 28, 2022 Share #41 Posted July 28, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Caveat to the new foveon sensor as Mr Yamazaki had pointed out in his interview that it isnt as 'versatile' a sensor; namely mentions the downside of its performance in low light is still an issue it seems He did mention the new foveon X3 sensor will be ready by sometime this year..8:10 🤔 However I do question it's development since the L mount isnt built around the foveon system but more than likely be the other way around. Mr Yamazaki has said in the interview that the likes street photography, which bodes well to the direction of the company's l future camera development in keeping in line to Fp's compact style and shooting that would favor Mr Yamazaki's favourite photography genre. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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verwackelt Posted July 28, 2022 Share #42 Posted July 28, 2022 If the sensor and its computing is as power hungry as the DP Merrills, hopefully the camera will be bigger to accommodate a bigger battery. Ibis would be nice either to compensate the lowlight weakness and a mechanical shutter because i doubt the readout will be so fast like in the Nikon Z9... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted July 28, 2022 Share #43 Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, verwackelt said: Why do you think that the L-Mount lenses will work poor on that sensor? Member jaap has reacted several times to this subject. R-lenses and other SLR lenses could deliver the necessary optical distance. This sensor has several sensitive sensors over each other. The lightpath has to be controlled in a different way. I think of my favorites here: the wide angles. Edited July 28, 2022 by jankap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share #44 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) The limitations (battery, low ISO, proprietary software) don't bother me. For landscape work and some other more static or daylight applications, the image quality with Leica glass might be mind blowing. Compete with the Leica S? In some uses, maybe! It'll be a tool I'd happily use for what it provides. I have a pocketful of batteries for my dp-Merrills and I think of them as rolls of film. When you love a camera for what it is, you figure out how to use it to its greatest advantage...and fun. Edited July 30, 2022 by bags27 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrollt Posted July 30, 2022 Share #45 Posted July 30, 2022 I remember reading about Foveon sensors years ago. They are quite different, aren’t they? Can anyone recommend a good comparison to see what Foveon is all about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted July 30, 2022 Share #46 Posted July 30, 2022 Start with Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foveon_X3_sensor 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted November 11, 2022 Share #47 Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Can't help, but the curiosity of a full frame Foveon sensor in an L-mount body remains strong and vivid. Next year? Edited November 11, 2022 by helged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted November 11, 2022 Share #48 Posted November 11, 2022 May be. But the latest news of last week Sigma says they have problems with their supplier and not yet decided what kind of AF they will use. I assume when they do not have the sensor ready for AF it will take much longer for production. Maybe 24 or 25? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share #49 Posted November 11, 2022 The interviewer was at least optimistic that the project continues. https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2022/11/05/sigma-interview-2022-i-series-lenses-foveon-update-16-28mm scroll down to: "What’s the status of the new Foveon sensor?" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted November 11, 2022 Share #50 Posted November 11, 2022 What worried me a bit was this statement: "KY: Ah, actually it’s quite early to be able to say anything about that. But as long as I see the market demand, and also in terms of the autofocus performance, the phase detection is the best solution. So I personally believe we need to implement phase detection AF, but we haven’t made a decision." If I imagine that no autofocus is implemented in the prototype yet, then it will definitely take another 2 years until the sensor is ready for series production, right? Or is something like PDAF Pixels just a little thing that is done quickly? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 3, 2023 Share #51 Posted March 3, 2023 Possibly in 2024...: https://fstoppers.com/gear/will-see-full-frame-foveon-sensor-sigma-soon-627043 and https://news-mynavi-jp.translate.goog/article/20230223-2600253/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted March 3, 2023 Share #52 Posted March 3, 2023 I put the japanese interview in google translate. There seems to be a step backwards with the sensor. Last year they were optimistic about getting a FF sensor ready and now they say they have gone back to smaller test sensors again. I admire Sigma for their idealism and hope that one day it will pay off and they will bring a great product to the market. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 3, 2023 Share #53 Posted March 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, verwackelt said: I put the japanese interview in google translate. There seems to be a step backwards with the sensor. Last year they were optimistic about getting a FF sensor ready and now they say they have gone back to smaller test sensors again. I admire Sigma for their idealism and hope that one day it will pay off and they will bring a great product to the market. +1. And I admire Yamaki-san's ambitions, openness and stamnia. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 3, 2023 Share #54 Posted March 3, 2023 On 7/28/2022 at 11:46 AM, verwackelt said: Why do you think that the L-Mount lenses will work poor on that sensor? They have been struggling with it since 2018 - I am not holding my breath; to me it is still vaporware. All lenses work poorly on a non-existing product Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted March 3, 2023 Share #55 Posted March 3, 2023 On a non existing product they will not work poorly. They will not work at all. We will see… Or not… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted November 13, 2024 Share #56 Posted November 13, 2024 Just to keep the thread alive; (still) hoping for a full frame Foveon-type of sensor, in an L-mount body, to eventually materialise... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted November 14, 2024 Author Share #57 Posted November 14, 2024 On 11/12/2024 at 11:30 PM, helged said: Just to keep the thread alive; (still) hoping for a full frame Foveon-type of sensor, in an L-mount body, to eventually materialise... Keeping hope alive is a very good thing to do these days.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 14, 2024 Share #58 Posted November 14, 2024 https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/6004010220/sigma-full-frame-foveon Not much hope there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted November 14, 2024 Share #59 Posted November 14, 2024 2 hours ago, jaapv said: https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/6004010220/sigma-full-frame-foveon Not much hope there... That's 8 months out of date though, Jaap. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 14, 2024 Share #60 Posted November 14, 2024 It is the latest - and what are a few months to a project that has been stagnating for the last six years at least? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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