charliebrown777 Posted August 16, 2021 Share #1  Posted August 16, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi everyone, I am a collector and have some interests in the non-Leica screw mount lenses. Recently I have this LTM Schneider Xenon 50/2 which I could not find enough useful information on the internet. From SN we can tell that it was manufactured between 1952-1954. Another collector I know told me this lens is a kind of rare collector's item and he has seen one mounted on a Italian LTM camera. Does anyone know anything about this lens? Thanks in advance.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323626-info-about-this-collapsible-schneider-ltm-xenon-50mm-f2/?do=findComment&comment=4257762'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Hi charliebrown777, Take a look here Info about this collapsible Schneider LTM Xenon 50mm f/2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
charliebrown777 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share #2 Â Posted August 17, 2021 Anybody? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted August 17, 2021 Share #3 Â Posted August 17, 2021 Hi, You probably saw this, but it shows a 50 f2 (5cm actually) with interesting info about it's designer ... John https://casualphotophile.com/2019/03/10/xenon-lens-history/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted August 17, 2021 Share #4  Posted August 17, 2021 No real answers, but I am sure I have seen this referred to somewhere. i found this one https://www.apertureinfo.com/item/schneider-kreuznach_xenon_50mm_f2_ltm.html and I have looked recently at this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284240044239?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted August 17, 2021 Share #5  Posted August 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Pyrogallol said: and I have looked recently at this one The seller of this one states "Front filter ring is 30mm Lens head mounted into a Leica register lens mount , Fitted by experienced, well regarded, British camera engineer" Could Charlie Brown777"s also be fitted in, say,  a LTM Summicron mount? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted August 17, 2021 Share #6 Â Posted August 17, 2021 Found another https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313640896770?hash=item4906744902:g:De0AAOSw1TdgtMJL Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted August 17, 2021 Share #7  Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I do not think that the lens shown by the OP is a genuine Schneider-Kreuznach lens. It is neat though, and could be the result of a capable craftsman joining a Xenon lens head with a Leica(?) mount. Edited August 17, 2021 by wizard correction 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted August 17, 2021 Share #8 Â Posted August 17, 2021 Teh Xenon was used on some Italian Leica-copies after the war like this one https://www.ebay.de/itm/124715042440?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 , so I think it's authentic. Anyways a clean Xenon for a reasonable price is a great lens to enjoy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebrown777 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share #9 Â Posted August 17, 2021 Thank you all for the info... I think the one on German ebay is the most similar to mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted August 17, 2021 Share #10  Posted August 17, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 3:18 PM, charliebrown777 said: Hi everyone, I am a collector and have some interests in the non-Leica screw mount lenses. Recently I have this LTM Schneider Xenon 50/2 which I could not find enough useful information on the internet. From SN we can tell that it was manufactured between 1952-1954. Another collector I know told me this lens is a kind of rare collector's item and he has seen one mounted on a Italian LTM camera. Does anyone know anything about this lens? Thanks in advance.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hi, Could you show us a picture of the LTM mount ? Best, JM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebrown777 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share #11  Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF said: Hi, Could you show us a picture of the LTM mount ? Best, JM.  Sure thing. I have taken several pics of the rear end. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323626-info-about-this-collapsible-schneider-ltm-xenon-50mm-f2/?do=findComment&comment=4258484'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted August 17, 2021 Share #12  Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, charliebrown777 said:  Sure thing. I have taken several pics of the rear end.  From the serial number, it  looks like your lens comes from  the rare batch of 1955 australian Nicca 5 "Snider" cameras ! Cheers, JM.   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 17, 2021 by JMF Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323626-info-about-this-collapsible-schneider-ltm-xenon-50mm-f2/?do=findComment&comment=4258513'>More sharing options...
charliebrown777 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share #13  Posted August 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, JMF said:  From the serial number, it  looks like your lens comes from  the rare batch of 1955 australian Nicca 5 "Snider" cameras ! Cheers, JM.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks, this is definitely the 100% correct answer to my question... So I got it from a Leica rangerfinder instead of Snider 35. I am interested in the book you are reading, could you let me know the title of it? I probably will buy one for myself. Also, do you know what is the last time a Snider 35 showed up? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted August 17, 2021 Share #14  Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, charliebrown777 said: Thanks, this is definitely the 100% correct answer to my question... So I got it from a Leica rangerfinder instead of Snider 35. I am interested in the book you are reading, could you let me know the title of it? I probably will buy one for myself. Also, do you know what is the last time a Snider 35 showed up? Thanks. I only have this image from the article or chapter of a book. From internet, it looks like the last auction mentioning a Snider 35 with Xenon was on 2008. Best, JM. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323626-info-about-this-collapsible-schneider-ltm-xenon-50mm-f2/?do=findComment&comment=4258557'>More sharing options...
charliebrown777 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share #15  Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF said: I only have this image from the article or chapter of a book. From internet, it looks like the last auction mentioning a Snider 35 with Xenon was on 2008. Best, JM. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hi, JM. I also have another lens that need more info: I could not find any other similar CZJ Tessar design on LTM, although I have noticed that an E Krauss recently sold on eBay looks very alike. Could you provide me with some infomation about this one? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted August 18, 2021 Share #16  Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, charliebrown777 said: Hi, JM. I also have another lens that need more info: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I could not find any other similar CZJ Tessar design on LTM, although I have noticed that an E Krauss recently sold on eBay looks very alike. Could you provide me with some infomation about this one? Thanks! No infos on my end about these lenses .  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebrown777 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share #17  Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF said: No infos on my end about these lenses .  Thank You anyway, especially for the info about the Schneider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted August 18, 2021 Share #18  Posted August 18, 2021 8 hours ago, charliebrown777 said: Thank You anyway, especially for the info about the Schneider. Would you know if a Leica  1a with its fixed 5cm Elmar can be standardized nowadays and who still offers this service ?! Best JM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted August 18, 2021 Share #19 Â Posted August 18, 2021 Probably some of the specialized labs (you can find them in the Forum) - and even some Forum member like Jerzy can do such a job... but is it worth ? A Leica 1 with fixed Elmar, though not rare, is a collectible in original conditions... an historical item of great importance in the history of photo equipment : why modifying it today ? Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebrown777 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share #20 Â Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, luigi bertolotti said: Probably some of the specialized labs (you can find them in the Forum) - and even some Forum member like Jerzy can do such a job... but is it worth ? A Leica 1 with fixed Elmar, though not rare, is a collectible in original conditions... an historical item of great importance in the history of photo equipment : why modifying it today ? Â I am quite agree with you on this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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