Info about this collapsible Schneider LTM Xenon 50mm f/2

[charliebrown777]

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Hi everyone, I am a collector and have some interests in the non-Leica screw mount lenses. Recently I have this LTM Schneider Xenon 50/2 which I could not find enough useful information on the internet. From SN we can tell that it was manufactured between 1952-1954. Another collector I know told me this lens is a kind of rare collector's item and he has seen one mounted on a Italian LTM camera. Does anyone know anything about this lens? Thanks in advance.

 

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[charliebrown777]

Anybody?

[jpattison]

Hi,

You probably saw this, but it shows a 50 f2 (5cm actually) with interesting info about it's designer ...

John

https://casualphotophile.com/2019/03/10/xenon-lens-history/

[Pyrogallol]

No real answers, but I am sure I have seen this referred to somewhere.

i found this one https://www.apertureinfo.com/item/schneider-kreuznach_xenon_50mm_f2_ltm.html

and I have looked recently at this one 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284240044239?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[jpattison]

29 minutes ago, Pyrogallol said:

and I have looked recently at this one

The seller of this one states "Front filter ring is 30mm Lens head mounted into a Leica register lens mount , Fitted by experienced, well regarded, British camera engineer"

Could Charlie Brown777"s also be fitted in, say,  a LTM Summicron mount?

John

[Pyrogallol]

Found another

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313640896770?hash=item4906744902:g:De0AAOSw1TdgtMJL

 

[wizard]

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I do not think that the lens shown by the OP is a genuine Schneider-Kreuznach lens. It is neat though, and could be the result of a capable craftsman joining a Xenon lens head with a Leica(?) mount.

Edited August 17, 2021 by wizard
correction

[romanus53]

Teh Xenon was used on some Italian Leica-copies after the war like this one https://www.ebay.de/itm/124715042440?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 , so I think it's authentic. Anyways a clean Xenon for a reasonable price is a great lens to enjoy

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[charliebrown777]

Thank you all for the info... I think the one on German ebay is the most similar to mine.

[Guest JMF]

On 8/16/2021 at 3:18 PM, charliebrown777 said:

Hi everyone, I am a collector and have some interests in the non-Leica screw mount lenses. Recently I have this LTM Schneider Xenon 50/2 which I could not find enough useful information on the internet. From SN we can tell that it was manufactured between 1952-1954. Another collector I know told me this lens is a kind of rare collector's item and he has seen one mounted on a Italian LTM camera. Does anyone know anything about this lens? Thanks in advance.

 

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Hi,

Could you show us a picture of the LTM mount ? 

Best, JM.

[charliebrown777]

1 hour ago, JMF said:

Hi,

Could you show us a picture of the LTM mount ? 

Best, JM.

 

Sure thing. I have taken several pics of the rear end.

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1 hour ago, charliebrown777 said:

 

Sure thing. I have taken several pics of the rear end.

 

From the serial number, it  looks like your lens comes from  the rare batch of 1955 australian Nicca 5 "Snider" cameras !

Cheers, JM.

 

 

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Edited August 17, 2021 by JMF

[charliebrown777]

39 minutes ago, JMF said:

 

From the serial number, it  looks like your lens comes from  the rare batch of 1955 australian Nicca 5 "Snider" cameras !

Cheers, JM.

 

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Thanks, this is definitely the 100% correct answer to my question... So I got it from a Leica rangerfinder instead of Snider 35. I am interested in the book you are reading, could you let me know the title of it? I probably will buy one for myself. Also, do you know what is the last time a Snider 35 showed up? Thanks.

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1 hour ago, charliebrown777 said:

Thanks, this is definitely the 100% correct answer to my question... So I got it from a Leica rangerfinder instead of Snider 35. I am interested in the book you are reading, could you let me know the title of it? I probably will buy one for myself. Also, do you know what is the last time a Snider 35 showed up? Thanks.

I only have this image from the article or chapter of a book.

From internet, it looks like the last auction mentioning a Snider 35 with Xenon was on 2008.

Best, JM.

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1 hour ago, JMF said:

I only have this image from the article or chapter of a book.

From internet, it looks like the last auction mentioning a Snider 35 with Xenon was on 2008.

Best, JM.

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Hi, JM.

I also have another lens that need more info:

I could not find any other similar CZJ Tessar design on LTM, although I have noticed that an E Krauss recently sold on eBay looks very alike. Could you provide me with some infomation about this one? Thanks!

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2 hours ago, charliebrown777 said:

Hi, JM.

I also have another lens that need more info:

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I could not find any other similar CZJ Tessar design on LTM, although I have noticed that an E Krauss recently sold on eBay looks very alike. Could you provide me with some infomation about this one? Thanks!

No infos on my end about these lenses .

 

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[charliebrown777]

1 hour ago, JMF said:

No infos on my end about these lenses .

 

Thank You anyway, especially for the info about the Schneider.

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8 hours ago, charliebrown777 said:

Thank You anyway, especially for the info about the Schneider.

Would you know if a Leica  1a with its fixed 5cm Elmar can be standardized nowadays and who still offers this service ?!

Best

JM

[luigi bertolotti]

Probably some of the specialized labs (you can find them in the Forum) - and even some Forum member like Jerzy can do such a job... but is it worth ? A Leica 1 with fixed Elmar, though not rare, is a collectible in original conditions... an historical item of great importance in the history of photo equipment : why modifying it today ?

 

[charliebrown777]

2 hours ago, luigi bertolotti said:

Probably some of the specialized labs (you can find them in the Forum) - and even some Forum member like Jerzy can do such a job... but is it worth ? A Leica 1 with fixed Elmar, though not rare, is a collectible in original conditions... an historical item of great importance in the history of photo equipment : why modifying it today ?

 

I am quite agree with you on this point.