rramesh Posted January 15, 2023 Share #41 Posted January 15, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just bought a Tiffen Black Pro Mist 1/4. It seems to produce an effect that is very hard to replicate in post processing. More experimentation needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rtai Posted January 16, 2023 Share #42 Posted January 16, 2023 I want to see if the K&F 1/4 black diffuser filter can cut the hard edge digital look of my Q2 Monochrom in daylight use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted January 17, 2023 Share #43 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) On 1/16/2023 at 6:28 AM, rtai said: I want to see if the K&F 1/4 black diffuser filter can cut the hard edge digital look of my Q2 Monochrom in daylight use. This is the type of reason that I’m investigating filters (I have a black pro mist and also a glimmerglass), and/or different (more “classic”?) lenses too. I have an M10M, and very modern lenses, hence looking for a look that is gentler. I think a lot of it is down to contrast, I was recently comparing the same scenes between my 5x4 film camera using Ektachrome and my GFX, and noted how much lower the contrast was from the film. When I reduced the mid-tone contrast on the GFX, they started to look a lot more similar in terms of rendering. Edited January 17, 2023 by Jon Warwick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeheartny Posted January 18, 2023 Share #44 Posted January 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Jon Warwick said: This is the type of reason that I’m investigating filters (I have a black pro mist and also a glimmerglass), and/or different (more “classic”?) lenses too. I have an M10M, and very modern lenses, hence looking for a look that is gentler. I think a lot of it is down to contrast, I was recently comparing the same scenes between my 5x4 film camera using Ektachrome and my GFX, and noted how much lower the contrast was from the film. When I reduced the mid-tone contrast on the GFX, they started to look a lot more similar in terms of rendering. How do you like the Glimmerglass compared to the Black ProMist? I have Black ProMist filters and like them but have been thinking of trying Glimmerglass. What is the approximate conversion between them-- i.e., if you have a 1/4 strength BPM, what Glimmerglass equivalent did you get? Any samples you can share? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 18, 2023 Share #45 Posted January 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, eyeheartny said: How do you like the Glimmerglass compared to the Black ProMist? I have Black ProMist filters and like them but have been thinking of trying Glimmerglass. What is the approximate conversion between them-- i.e., if you have a 1/4 strength BPM, what Glimmerglass equivalent did you get? Any samples you can share? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted January 18, 2023 Share #46 Posted January 18, 2023 I'm also interested in using other filters such as glimmer glass. Tiffens website has sample video of differing filters with various strengths. As much as I like black pro mist I find it's halation has a global haze that reduces contrast whereas I think the glimmer glass has a tighter halation over highlight areas only, which means contrast is not reduced as much Unfortunately Tiffens has yet to make glimmer glass with 39mm filter size unless custom made. Hopefully in the future. Thanks @Jon Warwick For mentioning the 39-37 step down ring doesn't vignette as I hoped it wouldn't as I recently bought one and eager to try I find the black pro mist just dials down off slightly the edge modern glass that's otherwise too much for my likeing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtai Posted January 18, 2023 Share #47 Posted January 18, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 hours ago, Jon Warwick said: This is the type of reason that I’m investigating filters (I have a black pro mist and also a glimmerglass), and/or different (more “classic”?) lenses too. I have an M10M, and very modern lenses, hence looking for a look that is gentler. I think a lot of it is down to contrast, I was recently comparing the same scenes between my 5x4 film camera using Ektachrome and my GFX, and noted how much lower the contrast was from the film. When I reduced the mid-tone contrast on the GFX, they started to look a lot more similar in terms of rendering. I also have an M10M and can select the right lenses for that gentler look. Sharp and contrasty need not apply. The K&F was just a budget choice. I probably won’t stick with it because I think a yellow or orange filter is essential and I don’t want to stack one on top of the black mist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted January 25, 2023 Share #48 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Nisi 1/4 black mist filter w/ 49mm-48mm adapter on a canon 50mm 1.4 LTM. personally I think 1/4 is on the strong side. 1/8 is perfect to leave on the lens for everyday shoot. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 25, 2023 by 69xchange 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323012-black-pro-mist-filter/?do=findComment&comment=4657778'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted January 25, 2023 Share #49 Posted January 25, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1/8 Black Promist filter (plus ND filter) on a 50 Noctilux 1.2 reissue and a M10M 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1/8 Black Promist filter (plus ND filter) on a 50 Noctilux 1.2 reissue and a M10M ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323012-black-pro-mist-filter/?do=findComment&comment=4657789'>More sharing options...
intangiblethings Posted January 26, 2023 Share #50 Posted January 26, 2023 I usually keep a 1/4 strength filter on most of my modern lenses (Zeiss Planar, Voigtlander 35/50mm f/1.2) and it’s usually not discernible unless I shoot into strong light sources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF Posted January 26, 2023 Share #51 Posted January 26, 2023 9 hours ago, intangiblethings said: I usually keep a 1/4 strength filter on most of my modern lenses (Zeiss Planar, Voigtlander 35/50mm f/1.2) and it’s usually not discernible unless I shoot into strong light sources. Are you using a Tiffen filter or a copy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intangiblethings Posted January 26, 2023 Share #52 Posted January 26, 2023 9 hours ago, JMF said: Are you using a Tiffen filter or a copy ? I have both Tiffen and K&F. The Tiffen ones are slimmer and allow you to use a lens hood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF Posted January 26, 2023 Share #53 Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, intangiblethings said: I have both Tiffen and K&F. The Tiffen ones are slimmer and allow you to use a lens hood. Are they matching in their effectiveness from brand to brand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 27, 2023 Share #54 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, JMF said: Are they matching in their effectiveness from brand to brand? Each brand applies their coating differently and in different strengths so the effect is different. Tiffen is very good but expensive. There are others, some made in China that are reasonable but cheaper. There's one made by Moment called CineBloom which is apparently very good, though it's not available where I am. Also since my lenses are mainly 39mm and 46mm, the choice is limited. Edited January 27, 2023 by rramesh 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted January 27, 2023 Share #55 Posted January 27, 2023 16 hours ago, rramesh said: There's one made by Moment called CineBloom which is apparently very good, though it's not available where I am. Also since my lenses are mainly 39mm and 46mm, the choice is limited. I'm using the CineBloom 10% on my SL50 & 90 APO. I also got the 20% (roughly equivalent to a Tiffen 1/2), but it's too strong and I used it only a couple of times. The 10% is permanently glued to my lenses. Sadly Moment doesn't make their CineBloom filters in a 46mm size. When I inquired they told me that at the moment there was no plan to add them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted January 27, 2023 Share #56 Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 3:19 PM, 69xchange said: Nisi 1/4 black mist filter w/ 49mm-48mm adapter on a canon 50mm 1.4 LTM. personally I think 1/4 is on the strong side. 1/8 is perfect to leave on the lens for everyday shoot. I think it mostly depends on the type of lens. On lenses with a more modern rendering, 1/4 is fine. Then of course it's also a matter of taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intangiblethings Posted January 28, 2023 Share #57 Posted January 28, 2023 As far as I know, Tiffen is the only brand to do 39mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 28, 2023 Share #58 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, intangiblethings said: As far as I know, Tiffen is the only brand to do 39mm. Mist filters are popular with videographers who tend to use lenses with larger filter threads. Hence, why brands make these in sizes 50+. It does not make sense to buy 39mm speciality filters as it would be unusable on larger filter mounts. Most of my Leica lenses are either in 39mm or 46mm, so I buy 46mm and use a 39-46 step up when needed. Edited January 28, 2023 by rramesh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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