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Really encouraging. I’m getting my birthday present 🎁 35 in a couple of days.  Having so appreciated the 24-90 I’d been wondering if it was going to be surplus to need. This image makes me think it’s going to open new opportunities. 

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb chris_tribble:

Really encouraging. I’m getting my birthday present 🎁 35 in a couple of days.  Having so appreciated the 24-90 I’d been wondering if it was going to be surplus to need. This image makes me think it’s going to open new opportunities. 

Congratulations! All SL Apo-Summicrons are simply outstanding (I'm using the 28/35/50/90 Apo's). As great the SL Varios are - the Apo's are just "unearthly"😇.

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Yeah! They've truly been paradigm shifting for me. The other one I've been using is the 75 on another SL2-S. Have been waffling with getting the 24 whenever it's released. As a stop gap, I have a Q2 in a bag with me, and the plan was just to use that until the 24 releases, but gosh, I really love not ever having to change lenses and instead just grabbing a cam with the 28 already on to get something wider. The Q2 lens is definitely great, but the optics can't compare to the APO SLs.

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11 hours ago, chris_tribble said:

Really encouraging. I’m getting my birthday present 🎁 35 in a couple of days.  Having so appreciated the 24-90 I’d been wondering if it was going to be surplus to need. This image makes me think it’s going to open new opportunities. 

Happy Birthday.

The weight difference and the results make my 24-90 sit on the shelf until a specific need calls for it. 

Such a joy.

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The L-APO Crons are amazing, but my observations having shot the 75 APO for a couple of years and the 35 APO for about a year is that at f/4.0 and beyond, they are no better than the competition (or their M counterparts) in terms of resolution. To really justify the cost differential from Sony/Nikon/Canon, there needs to be a strong case for shooting these lenses wide open for the vast majority of imaging. I doubt this applies to many photographers.

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On 5/11/2021 at 12:02 PM, hellobrandonscott said:

With my old Canon 35 L lens, the tree tops would be bleeding purple CA. I'm stunned by how there's literally no CA to fuss with at all with the APO glass and the SL2-S. 

Just a statement of appreciation. ha. 

 

 

 

can you post a jpeg Without Adjustments ?

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1 hour ago, Priaptor said:

I treated myself to a 35 SL APO for my 68th birthday last month and also have 24-90. I was debating whether to get the SL version or the M version for a smaller rig but decided on the SL. Only been testing it and am very impressed. Getting ready for my trek out to MT and really can't wait. This and my 21 SEM will be my go to for the next 4 months. 

I did just the same (SL2 owner) ...well, a bit different, I added the 90 SL APO for my 50th ... picked it up at the store yesterday as an addition to the 50 SL and the Sigma WA 14-24. Will admit that for a moment, I guess upon announcement of the SL2-S, I started looking into the Canon R5... Just browsin' kinda lookin' if you will... then took the plunge on the 90 and am happy, deep down it is the glass, most of anything, that keeps me around. 🙂

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1 hour ago, jplomley said:

The L-APO Crons are amazing, but my observations having shot the 75 APO for a couple of years and the 35 APO for about a year is that at f/4.0 and beyond, they are no better than the competition (or their M counterparts) in terms of resolution. To really justify the cost differential from Sony/Nikon/Canon, there needs to be a strong case for shooting these lenses wide open for the vast majority of imaging. I doubt this applies to many photographers.

Diffraction isn't brand-sensitive. That's why most modern fixed lenses converge in resolution performance by 4.0 or 5.6. Resolution isn't the only factor, of course. If it is, you may want to investigate larger sensor/film formats (and sturdier tripods, and bigger bags, porters, etc).

Of course, the flip-side is that modern Leica lenses are good at all apertures, so you don't absolutely have to stop-down in order to get a sharp image.

What most impresses me is that they can hold subtle detail and contrast even with strong back lighting and side lighting. I've framed shots with the Sun right over the subject's shoulder, and you would hardly know. That kind of lighting isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it justifies the price premium for me. It's good to know that you will get the shot that you visualized. Besides, I only need a few lenses, and I keep them a long time, so it's cheaper to get the best and stop shopping.

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A bit of pixel peeping.  M 35 Cron Asph compared with SL APO 35.  Both at f2 and both on SL2. 

Thoughts. 

  1. I like the way both lenses render, though the colour on the M Cron Asph feels slightly more neutral than the SL APO. 
  2. Bokeh is similar off both - and pleasing IMHO
  3. The SL APO definitely has the edge on detail  I took a number of images with both lenses and chose the best from each.

CONCLUSION?  If I'm travelling light, I'm still going to be happy with the 35 Cron - and the detail difference will be less of an issue I guess with the smaller sensor on the M10 (which I'm not planning to change for a long long time.  If I want the speed and flexibility of AF and if I need maximum sharpness / detail, I'll be very very pleased that I have the SL APO 35.  All in all, a good outcome from my perspective. 

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Update - I realise that I was at the 70cm limit of focus for the M35 Cron Asph when I did the last test.  I've pulled back a tad, and find that the M lens' performance is up a little - though the SL APO is still (as you'd expect) the sharpness winner!

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... and finally, the same scene but with M10 (and later in the day)... It's pretty damn good!

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