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2 hours ago, Ouroboros said:

Could be a reason why so many Leica owners will spend £10k+ on a Leica and a lens but never print a single image

This is why I only own M6 bodies.  Film + darkroom = beautiful prints.

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15 hours ago, logan2z said:

Nearly two pages of posts discussing whether or not to remove the protective plastic on the bottom of a camera?  This is one of those threads that causes people to mock Leica owners.  

These people might lack some sense of humour

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14 hours ago, Pyrogallol said:

Printed 14 darkroom prints this morning from Rollei 400 infrared negs.

Yeah, you need these threads as a break and a little rest for your legs. 

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1 hour ago, otto.f said:

Yeah, you need these threads as a break and a little rest for your legs. 

Torn up two of them this morning, these are the best ones.

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2 hours ago, Pyrogallol said:

Torn up two of them this morning, these are the best ones.

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I like the one with the fence most, as infrared image. Seems nice paper too, not too brown

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6 hours ago, Pyrogallol said:

Torn up two of them this morning, these are the best ones.

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I like the field (top left) and the barge. I'd like to see them larger :)

I should do some IR one of these days, I've still got some Kodak to finish... though I think it may have expired 🤔

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50 minutes ago, ianman said:

I think it may have expired

My expired Kodak’s are better than my new ones 😊, not speaking of infrared here, but that won’t make a difference I think.

I don't’ know if there’s any thread gone off optic that far as this one (except on the German forum of course), but there will probably be a hidden relation with peeling off protection film which mankind does not yet know off. 

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I think we had the millennial Leica’s in mind. They might profit from a ‘downdate’ in certain details to spare the environment/sea. My supermarket has substituted the plastic bags by paper bags. Perhaps Leica could come up with a brown paper protection film for the baseplate, just as a statement. 

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40 minutes ago, otto.f said:

I think we had the millennial Leica’s in mind. They might profit from a ‘downdate’ in certain details to spare the environment/sea. My supermarket has substituted the plastic bags by paper bags. Perhaps Leica could come up with a brown paper protection film for the baseplate, just as a statement. 

This was the underlying point in my post #51, although I cannot see why the baseplate needs protecting anyway.  Leica have an opportunity to make an environmental awareness statement by simplifying their unnecessary and over-designed packaging.

    

 

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On 4/27/2021 at 7:28 PM, Ouroboros said:

..... I cannot see why the baseplate needs protecting anyway.

I thought that was what the plating/paint/finish was supposed to do. The next question is what does the baseplate needs protecting against? In my case its probably me. I dropped one of mine and had to bend the edge with a pair of pliers to get it back onto the camera. I don't think that plastic film would have been of much use.

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On 4/27/2021 at 1:28 PM, Ouroboros said:

This was the underlying point in my post #51, although I cannot see why the baseplate needs protecting anyway.  Leica have an opportunity to make an environmental awareness statement by simplifying their unnecessary and over-designed packaging.

    

 

They need a baseplate protector so the cameras handled at the store counter, or on demo, don't get their base plates buffed or scratched.  People dropping $5k+ on their new Leica don't like that [nono]

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1 hour ago, Danner said:

They need a baseplate protector so the cameras handled at the store counter, or on demo, don't get their base plates buffed or scratched.  People dropping $5k+ on their new Leica don't like that [nono]

People spending 5K+ on their new Leica expect it to be new, not an open box or in-store demo 😉

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6 hours ago, Danner said:

They need a baseplate protector so the cameras handled at the store counter, or on demo, don't get their base plates buffed or scratched.  People dropping $5k+ on their new Leica don't like that [nono]

I wouldn't deal with a shop that allowed their NEW stock to be opened and handled like that.  Neither would anyone I know,  it's different here to wherever you are and there is no need for a baseplate protector.

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