Why 35mm fle

[Kamyar]

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Hey guys. Actually i have 35mm corn asph v4. 
My friend wants to sell his own lens (35 lux FLE) . And actually again price is so tempting. 
Do you think the difference between the two lenses is so big that I have to buy?

 

[jdlaing]

You don’t have to but there is a difference between the two. The extra stop is not necessary but nice to have when you want it.

[Kamyar]

3 minutes ago, jdlaing said:

You don’t have to but there is a difference between the two. The extra stop is not necessary but nice to have when you want it.

So you say only different on extra stop ? FLE Not a better quality? Just faster?

[jdlaing]

9 minutes ago, Kamyar said:

So you say only different on extra stop ? FLE Not a better quality? Just faster?

Better is subjective. I’d say different

[mmradman]

Summilux 35mm FLE is the current fast 35 M lens.

Ignoring all this OOF stuff that makes more than 90% of discussion here it is a modern lens that improves technically on its predecessors, I even like the modern integrated lenshood.  I have the lens and it always produces satisfactory result across the field and even good in OOF department. It is so good that that sometimes it hurts, if I want slightly classical look, less sharp and contrast than I reach for lens which is as old as myself (1960), Summaron 35mm f2.8.

[mmradman]

Picture is always good way to explain theblens, M240 with Summilux 35mm FLE, according to Exif shot at f3.4.

 

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[Jeff S]

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1 hour ago, Kamyar said:

Hey guys. Actually i have 35mm corn asph v4. 
 

 

You either have v.5 Summicron ASPH, or v.4 Summicron (so-called bokeh king), which is not ASPH.  Differences might influence your decision.

As others note, there are many characteristics that might influence one’s choice, including size, weight, ergonomics and handling, hood design, speed, rendering (including flare, bokeh, etc), price, and more.  Might depend, too, on camera bodies involved.

I added the current 35 Summilux ASPH (FLE) to my 35 Summicron ASPH v.1 and 35 Summaron f2.8 (1960).   Different in many of the above aspects.  But any of these lenses are more than capable of delivering terrific results in a comprehensive print workflow. Much depends on subject matter, rendering and display goals and how well the user extracts that potential.  Just like all the other hardware (and software) we scrutinize. We’re spoiled for choice.
 

Jeff

[jaeger]

the FLE version has fixed the focus shifting issue that curses the ASPH. 

or the word "floating" sounds so "fly" that might get some people kinda "high"

Edited April 18, 2021 by jaeger

[Kwesi]

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35 FLE - M10-P, SOOC Monochrome JPEG

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Ive had the original 35/2 8 elements, the King of Bokeh and the 35/ ASPH V2. The FLE is by far my favorite.

 

[elmars]

The FLE is the better lens in all aspects: Better sharpness (especially in the corners), better flare resistance, no focus shift, 1 stop more. I personally made the step from the Cron V4 to the FLE because of the flare resistance - and because I love Summiluxes without needing them really.

[Kamyar]

6 hours ago, Jeff S said:

You either have v.5 Summicron ASPH, or v.4 Summicron (so-called bokeh king), which is not ASPH.  Differences might influence your decision.

As others note, there are many characteristics that might influence one’s choice, including size, weight, ergonomics and handling, hood design, speed, rendering (including flare, bokeh, etc), price, and more.  Might depend, too, on camera bodies involved.

I added the current 35 Summilux ASPH (FLE) to my 35 Summicron ASPH v.1 and 35 Summaron f2.8 (1960).   Different in many of the above aspects.  But any of these lenses are more than capable of delivering terrific results in a comprehensive print workflow. Much depends on subject matter, rendering and display goals and how well the user extracts that potential.  Just like all the other hardware (and software) we scrutinize. We’re spoiled for choice.
 

Jeff

Thanks jeff. 
i have v4 and v4 is asph. 

[evikne]

39 minutes ago, Kamyar said:

i have v4 and v4 is asph. 

From Thorsten Overgaards's website https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-35mm-summicron-M-f20.html

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The v4 is well know as "The King of Bokeh". So if you call your 35mm Summicron "v4", most people will assume that this is the one you are talking about. 

[SiggiGun]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb Kamyar:

So you say only different on extra stop ? FLE Not a better quality? Just faster?

The essential benefits of FLE is better Image quality in near focus situations 

[otto.f]

8 minutes ago, SiggiGun said:

The essential benefits of FLE is better Image quality in near focus situations 

+1

I can add that I have the 35cron pre-asph (= v4, king of bokeh) and king of lightweight, the Summaron 35 and the FLE. For great, faraway and long travels my FLE stands out above the others. It is very multi-purpose, the best in colors of the three and I always come home with more than I had expected. I pick the v4 when I want to go light and compact and I use it more often for B&W.

Edited April 19, 2021 by otto.f

[helged]

I guess I belong to the minority; but I never liked FLE's tendency of double-line off rendering... An oldish post (with too hard pp, but nevertheless):

 

[elmars]

I forgot: The FLE has a great bokeh!

[Casey Jefferson]

I compared 35cron v4 with my 35cron asph v1 recently, the contrast and saturation wide open is very apparent, and a lot warmer in color signature on the asph too. I wouldn't expect the FLE to be anything less in those aspects.

So first and foremost the contrast and color is probably the most apparent difference, followed by the shallower dof.

[Jeff S]

7 hours ago, Kamyar said:

Thanks jeff. 
i have v4 and v4 is asph. 

Version 4 is so-called ‘king of bokeh’, which is not ASPH.

Jeff

[Kamyar]

8 hours ago, otto.f said:

+1

I can add that I have the 35cron pre-asph (= v4, king of bokeh) and king of lightweight, the Summaron 35 and the FLE. For great, faraway and long travels my FLE stands out above the others. It is very multi-purpose, the best in colors of the three and I always come home with more than I had expected. I pick the v4 when I want to go light and compact and I use it more often for B&W.

I think I should do the same

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[Kamyar]

12 hours ago, evikne said:

From Thorsten Overgaards's website https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-35mm-summicron-M-f20.html

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The v4 is well know as "The King of Bokeh". So if you call your 35mm Summicron "v4", most people will assume that this is the one you are talking about. 

Yes . It is true.  I made a mistake.