didier Posted April 8, 2021 Share #21 Â Posted April 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 hours ago, lct said: the main reason for me was to come back to a kind of purity with the M experience To be clear : the main reason for choosing the M10M and selling the M(240) Â Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nicci78 Posted April 8, 2021 Share #22  Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) I used to limit my M typ 262 to 3200 ISO in colour and 6400 ISO in B&W (banding issues after that) but I am happy to use my CL until 12800 ISO in colour and until 25000 ISO in B&W CL also has better dynamic at base ISO. Edited April 8, 2021 by nicci78 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted April 8, 2021 Share #23  Posted April 8, 2021 M10 has slightly better high ISO performance. But it suffered of a weird ISO 100. At this settings highlights will be blown. Its real base ISO in practice is 200. Combined with 1/4000th max shutter speed. It makes using fast lens wide open difficult. Whereas CL has a real and usable ISO 100 and a very fast 1/8000th mechanical shutter or 1/25000th electronic one. It is awesome for very fast lens when the sun is shining brightly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaS2 Posted April 8, 2021 Share #24  Posted April 8, 2021 It's the opposite. My M's are taking over from the CL. I  used the CL for telephoto, and discovered the 55-135 can be beaten by the M10M 90mm Macro-Elmar. The 11-23 TL zoom is terrific, but I have a 12mm on the M that is wider. So now, the CL is used with it's 18mm for a pocketable quite light camera that I am willing to hand to someone else to take the picture, thanks to the AF.   2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2021 Share #25 Â Posted April 9, 2021 Two more reasons why I am happy to use the M10 in addition to the CL: Elmar-M 50mm and Tri-Elmar-M 28-35-50mm. The former obviously can't collapse with the CL and the latter becomes quite boring due to the extension factor. Both are among my favourite lenses. I hardly used them with the CL but rediscovered them with the M10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_j Posted April 9, 2021 Share #26  Posted April 9, 2021 I bought the CL to replace my venerable but still totally functional M8. I seem to have ended up with both. There is something about the traditional M range that's hard to let go. Anyway the CL doesn't do infra red! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 9, 2021 Share #27 Â Posted April 9, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Studienkamera said: Two more reasons why I am happy to use the M10 in addition to the CL: Elmar-M 50mm and Tri-Elmar-M 28-35-50mm. The former obviously can't collapse with the CL and the latter becomes quite boring due to the extension factor. Both are among my favourite lenses. I hardly used them with the CL but rediscovered them with the M10. Matter of tastes again. I use more my MATE on APS-C and the Elmar-M 50/2.8 it is my favorite 50 on both formats . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 9, 2021 Share #28  Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Studienkamera said: Two more reasons why I am happy to use the M10 in addition to the CL: Elmar-M 50mm and Tri-Elmar-M 28-35-50mm. The former obviously can't collapse with the CL and the latter becomes quite boring due to the extension factor. Both are among my favourite lenses. I hardly used them with the CL but rediscovered them with the M10. MATE was my favorite lens with M9 before it was stolen. But now I am happier with X Vario. M240 + Summicorn-M is irreplacible, but the margin is tolerable to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly21 Posted April 9, 2021 Share #29  Posted April 9, 2021 Which one would you keep/marry/kill? (Or perhaps both?) Not quite sure myself, at the moment. I also have an M6 and a version of M lenses from 21 through 135. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319595-have-any-m-users-found-that-the-cl-takes-over/?do=findComment&comment=4178148'>More sharing options...
38wadcutter Posted April 10, 2021 Share #30 Â Posted April 10, 2021 Gadfly, Where did you get the black Leica logo for the CL? I'd love to get a couple. Thanks, Mitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly21 Posted April 10, 2021 Share #31  Posted April 10, 2021 7 hours ago, 38wadcutter said: Gadfly, Where did you get the black Leica logo for the CL? I'd love to get a couple. Thanks, Mitch Hi, I do not know where to purchase any black dots I removed the original red dot and let it sit in Acetone for a day. Later, I sprayed on black lacquer paint and removed the paint from the raised surface with a cotton swab and wooden toothpick. Finally, I dipped the piece in clear acrylic. The dot was re-glued with a low-tack semi-permanent glue. It can be removed at any time and swapped with an original red dot if I wish. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
analog-digital Posted April 10, 2021 Share #32  Posted April 10, 2021 Am 5.4.2021 um 02:49 schrieb Peter Wright: I got a CL about a year back to use as a supplement to my M system.  (I have a M 240, M246, a film M and a good collection of lenses.)  I got the CL for those times when zoom, electronic viewfinders, and AF are useful.  I have still predominately used my M cameras over the last year, but I am slowly coming to the conclusion that the CL is all that I really need, and might trade out the M240 for a CL2 when it arrives if I like the additional features.  I am also thinking of trading out the M246 for the Q2M as almost all my mono work is between 28-50mm, and if I need to get outside that range then the CL could handle it.  I would keep my M lenses as they work well on the CL, but I am a bit nervous about giving up digital M camera capability altogether.  Anyone else been down a similar path? Do it and don't look back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 10, 2021 Share #33  Posted April 10, 2021 7 hours ago, 38wadcutter said: Gadfly, Where did you get the black Leica logo for the CL? I'd love to get a couple. Thanks, Mitch Red dot phoebias  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/319595-have-any-m-users-found-that-the-cl-takes-over/?do=findComment&comment=4178735'>More sharing options...
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