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I have been watching prices on used film M cameras at Tamarkin and ClassicConnection.  All of the film bodies have seen significant price hikes, especially those which are in Mint/Mint- condition.  I have a very nice chrome button rewind M2 (not anything special but in good condition/CLA'ed three years ago) which I was going to list for $1200-1400.  Tamarkin's cheapest M2 is $1800 and it looks to be in the same condition as mine.

I may be part of the problem as I gave ClassicConnection $3000 for an M4 back in December.  However, the M4 was a 50th anniversary black chrome in mint/like new condition and came in the box (not important to me) and with a working black chrome meter.  I notice ClassicConnection has an identical M4 listed without the meter for $3300.  Generally prices reflect supply (not making many film cameras anymore) and demand (plus the cult of Leica).  Although my favorite film M's are the M2 and M4, I sure wish I had hung on to a couple M6's I owned while they were still being made.

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colint544
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All the classic M film cameras have rocketed in value lately. The M6 especially. As others have pointed out, there's a resurgence of interest in film, but virtually nobody is making film cameras.

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Only two years ago there was an excellent condition M2 with Elmar 3.5 and Leicameter on Gumtree here in Tas for $1400 AUD. It was up for around 6 months and I couldn't believe when it finally sold it

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I think this analysis is right, not just with new entrants to film. Even for us no-longer-in-paid-employment people, covid has meant more time at a computer in zoom meetings; the attractions of someth

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27 minutes ago, ktmrider2 said:

I have been watching prices on used film M cameras at Tamarkin and ClassicConnection.  All of the film bodies have seen significant price hikes, especially those which are in Mint/Mint- condition.  I have a very nice chrome button rewind M2 (not anything special but in good condition/CLA'ed three years ago) which I was going to list for $1200-1400.  Tamarkin's cheapest M2 is $1800 and it looks to be in the same condition as mine.

I may be part of the problem as I gave ClassicConnection $3000 for an M4 back in December.  However, the M4 was a 50th anniversary black chrome in mint/like new condition and came in the box (not important to me) and with a working black chrome meter.  I notice ClassicConnection has an identical M4 listed without the meter for $3300.  Generally prices reflect supply (not making many film cameras anymore) and demand (plus the cult of Leica).  Although my favorite film M's are the M2 and M4, I sure wish I had hung on to a couple M6's I owned while they were still being made.

I've been watching M3 prices steadily rise on Tamarkin's site too.  I probably should have bought one several months ago when they were $1300 instead of $1800.  As someone else mentioned, they can only go so far before they start getting close enough to new M-A/MP prices that they become less interesting.

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M6 prices are pretty insane right now. Leica Store Manchester wants £2349 for a black chrome camera with some bubbling, or £2595 for an an ordinary silver chrome body. So the replacement cost of mine is about triple what I paid for it back in the 00s. Maybe we should blame Youtube - this video has had 100,000 views in a month. The irony of discussing the popularity and high price of a camera on social media making it even more popular and expensive isn't lost on the presenter (see 10:40).

 

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8 hours ago, pedaes said:

Be interesting to see these prices after Leica brings out the rumoured 'cheap' M film body. https://www.macfilos.com/2021/01/05/whats-going-to-happen-at-leica-in-2021/

Even this blogger rates the rumor as 'unlikely'. I also think it's just the usual wishful thinking - sort of along the lines of my hope for an affordable re-release of the XPan (another camera where the price rocketed the last few years).

edit: btw it's not just cameras like the legendary Leica M and XPan that are spiraling in price: at a local auction here last week, someone paid the equivalent of $650 for a Ricoh GR1s - an amazing amount it seems to me, for a pocket camera with very dodgy electronics. I bought one a few years ago for around $150, and although I love the images from the amazing lens, after about a month the LCD on the top started losing display elements. 

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BTW, aside from no Nikons F or F2 vintage, the Leica Rs are missing the price parade. My R6.2 hasn't really budged, or enough to make a difference to me. i guess everyone loves a rangefinder.

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On 5/12/2021 at 11:09 PM, sblitz said:

BTW, aside from no Nikons F or F2 vintage, the Leica Rs are missing the price parade. My R6.2 hasn't really budged, or enough to make a difference to me. i guess everyone loves a rangefinder.

Very true. Actually I see Leica R cameras sold for less now than Voigtlander Bessa rangefinder cameras - the latter ones have also risen in price significantly after Leica M film camera prices went uphill so steeply. This said, I bought my M3 in 2018 for $800 locally but had to have its shutter replaced one year later after the curtain broke. I commonly see M3s going now for $1500 similar to M2s. 

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On 5/12/2021 at 2:48 PM, Capuccino-Muffin said:

It’s all peanuts for such great instruments.

Also, real Leica afficionados skip the M6. 

Why would Leica aficionados skip the pinnacle of the M-line?!?!?

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13 hours ago, Danner said:

Why would Leica aficionados skip the pinnacle of the M-line?!?!?

 

10 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

They do not skip the pinnacle, why are you saying that?

 

They skip the entry-level camera.

An argument discussion that could run to the end of time... :D

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4 minutes ago, tedd said:

My M2 just landed and, despite the rangefinder being out (see other thread), it makes my late M6 feel like a toy! 

Congrats - shame about the rangefinder, but easily fixed. You can't go wrong with an M2.

I went from an M6 to an M2, and I know what you mean. The M6 is a great workhorse, but the M2 just has a kind of perfect feel to it. And those 35mm framelines - best on any M. 

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I had my eye on an M3 SS at Tamarkin, it seemed overpriced to me at $1850 so I didn't pull the trigger.  Of course it just sold.  Seems like that camera would have been around $1200 a year or so ago 🙁

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