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[pgk]

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From the lens in my previous post. I guess this lens could be converted to Leica M ....

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[zeitz]

Paul, I would be very concerned about the WD40.  Oil is sticky (viscous) and will cause the blades to stick together when the oil makes its way to the blades.  Also there are probably some distillants in WD40 that could coat the glass surfaces.  The lens looks simple enough to disassemble, clean thoroughly, apply optical helicoid grease to the threaded surface, and minute amounts of graphite to the blade pins.  

[pgk]

55 minutes ago, zeitz said:

Paul, I would be very concerned about the WD40.  Oil is sticky (viscous) and will cause the blades to stick together when the oil makes its way to the blades.  Also there are probably some distillants in WD40 that could coat the glass surfaces.  The lens looks simple enough to disassemble, clean thoroughly, apply optical helicoid grease to the threaded surface, and minute amounts of graphite to the blade pins.  

Thanks, and yes, its booked in with a repairer in January - earliest I could get it done. WD40 isn't ideal but neither are seized aperture blades and older TTH lenses are somewhat prone to this problem - it is probably dried out lubricant in the rotating ring I'd guess as the blades themselves are ok, so WD down the ring isn't as bad as it may sound! The mingling of brass and aluminium parts doesn't help. Small little lens though which is proving very usable. I believe that TTH may also have made a ~3" version of the Cooke Series III, but I've not tracked one down as yet.

[Ambro51]

Something quite a bit different.  I’ve got a few Perfex cameras and find them quite interesting, though bulky.  The Model 22 was built by a small group still working there in 1944.  It used parts from other Perfex models, had a really neat “nameplate” riveted on plus an early use of plastic advance and rewind knobs.  Most were chrome, but some had black base and top plates.  It had a hot shoe ( not compatable with modern electronic flashes) and a built in extinction meter.  The back of the camera has an exposure calculator with a rotating dial.   The entire camera was designed to work around existing patents by other makers.  ••••. The Big difference with This one came after i discovered that that Nikon f2 lens was very close to matching the focal plane of the meh f 3.5 original lens.  So, I crazy glued the thing on!   Focus is by scale on the lens, since it dosent couple with the rangefinder.   BUT. As an image maker……well, it’s a Nikon, and that’s one of the best lenses they ever made.  

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[wlaidlaw]

1 hour ago, Ambro51 said:

Something quite a bit different.  I’ve got a few Perfex cameras and find them quite interesting, though bulky.  The Model 22 was built by a small group still working there in 1944.  It used parts from other Perfex models, had a really neat “nameplate” riveted on plus an early use of plastic advance and rewind knobs.  Most were chrome, but some had black base and top plates.  It had a hot shoe ( not compatable with modern electronic flashes) and a built in extinction meter.  The back of the camera has an exposure calculator with a rotating dial.   The entire camera was designed to work around existing patents by other makers.  ••••. The Big difference with This one came after i discovered that that Nikon f2 lens was very close to matching the focal plane of the meh f 3.5 original lens.  So, I crazy glued the thing on!   Focus is by scale on the lens, since it dosent couple with the rangefinder.   BUT. As an image maker……well, it’s a Nikon, and that’s one of the best lenses they ever made.  

There is an interesting short history of the Corfield Camera Company here: https://corfield.org/camera . I searched for some years to find a Corfield Architect Camera without success and in the end bought a somewhat similar camera, the Mamiya Super 23 Press camera, without realising it was apparently made from large lumps of steel and is so heavy that my elderly arthritic hands can barely lift it. 

Wilson

[luigi bertolotti]

Not a camera, but a fine piece of Swiss engineering: 8mm Paillard B8L, belonging to an uncle of mine (and then to a cousin who was so kind to give it to me...)

Two lens turret with std. and tele, plus an undepicted 5,5 mm wideangle.

 

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My refined 'carriable' custom Arca Swiss in the hills and sporting the Cooke lens detailed in #1087 and 1088. Plus a photo from it. Photo of Arca on M9/35.

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[wlaidlaw]

Paul, 

Where is that? 

Wilson

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36 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

Where is that?

Its Glen Rosa on Aran Wilson. Nat Trust for Scotland own some/most? You might find this interesting: https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/reforesting-glen-rosa. Kate is one of the Rangers and very knowledgable indeed.

[wlaidlaw]

Paul,

I was a bit puzzled at first as Aran with one R is a group of islands in Galway bay, which I visited in 1998, when on a business trip to Galway (The professional indemnity insurance organisation for Republic of Ireland dentists was based in Galway and they were consulting us on setting up a captive insurance company). I remembered the Aran islands as a being a bit flat. Once I googled Glen Rosa, I saw you had meant Arran in Scotland. I have a friend who has been trying to replant native woodland species on his property up in Strath Oykel but as fast as he plants them, the deer eat the seedling trees. I don't know if there are deer on Arran, with a bit of luck not too many. 

Wilson

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20 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

I was a bit puzzled at first as Aran with one R is a group of islands in Galway bay

Sorry, my typos are getting worse. I have a new mac to set up as this one has letters wearing off the keyboard! Yes there are deer on Arran although they are controlled and we don't often see them where I live. I did have to brake for 3 a couple of weeks ago, as they ran across the road from a golf course!

The Aran Islands share the fact that their geology is interesting with Arran. We used to dive the Arans in Galway Bay (stunning diving) and I always remember a diving friend who was a builder getting off the ferry and commenting about the huge quantities of concrete they must be using. Then he looked closer and realised that it was limestone bedrock! The title sequence of Father Ted shows an overfly of the wreck of the Plassey high and dry on the Arans.

Another photo from today here: 

 

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[wlaidlaw]

One of the places I went stalking once in the 1990s at Edzell near Brechin, we used an 8 wheel device called an Argo Cat. The only problem is that it was very noisy, with a 2 cylinder diesel engine and I am sure the deer heard it and said to each other: "better hide lads, here come those bastards with guns". We had to find a particular stag which had been wounded by poachers with a cross bow and it took two days of climbing on foot in high winds and pouring rain before the stalker and I tracked it down. At least we then had a radio which we could summon the Argo Cat to come and take the carcass off the mountain side. Before the Argo Cat, we would have had to use a mountain pony. In the 1960's the Forestry Commission around Glen Afric were using mules imported from the USA for removing deer carcasses. They were very sure footed but you had to be very wary of getting near them, as one end bit and the other end kicked - very bad tempered animals. 

Wilson

[pgk]

Two photos which contain the lens used to take the other (ad my 6x9 Arca Swiss too):

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[wlaidlaw]

Paul, 

When you say 6 x 9, do you mean inches or cm. I have a Rollex 6 x 9 roll film back for my approx 1909 vintage Wirgin Edixa folder with Meyer 105mm f2.8 Trioplan lens, as well as couple of cut film dark slides. I don't know what roll film the Rollex back takes. I have tried both 120 and 620, neither of which worked properly and jammed. I think it must need 616 film, which is even more obsolete than 620. 

Wilson

 

[pgk]

14 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

Paul, 

When you say 6 x 9, do you mean inches or cm. I have a Rollex 6 x 9 roll film back for my approx 1909 vintage Wirgin Edixa folder with Meyer 105mm f2.8 Trioplan lens, as well as couple of cut film dark slides. I don't know what roll film the Rollex back takes. I have tried both 120 and 620, neither of which worked properly and jammed. I think it must need 616 film, which is even more obsolete than 620. 

Wilson

 

The Arca uses Arca/Horseman backs which can shoot medium formats up to 6x9cm. One complicating factor is that newer baks are 'N' standard meaning that the ground glass on a non-N back is in a different plane thus no compatibility. N was apparently a response to digital used by recent Rodenstock lenses.

The early roll film holder backs were very variable being made in a variety of formats, for a variety of fims and in many marginally different fittings. I have a Gandolfi built to take a pre-war roll film back but as yet I've not found one which will actually fit. I suspect from its design, that it was a built to order Gandolfi and the rear was built to fit a customer's film holder, but which??? You could try googling reloaded film because I know that some obsolete film rollers can be would with modern film providing its physically possible.

[wlaidlaw]

Thanks Paul. I have more than enough film cameras which actually work rather than trying to use and resurrect my Wirgin-Edixa. I suspect it would be found to have a leaky bellows, although it would be interesting to see the results from the Meyer Trioplan lens. I might experiment with loading some cut 120 film into the dark slides I have for it, as I have plenty of rolls of time expired 120 film, so zero cost to giving it a go. I just had a look at the history of Meyer-Gorlitz and found that the Trioplan lens was launched in 1916, which means my Wirgin-Edixa camera is later than I had been told by someone on the Edixa forum, from its serial number. 

Wilson

[willeica]

Some recent additions in 24x24mm (square frame) and 18x24mm (half frame)

1948 Fritz Kuhnert EFKA 24 with Elor 4cm f2.8 lens for 24x24mm 35mm square frame format

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1932 Kochmann Korelle K in Red Bakelite with Meyer Gorlitz 3.5cm f2.8 Trioplan lens for 18x24mm 35mm half frame format

The above camera beside another Kochmann Korelle K in Black Bakelite with a very rare Leitz 3.5cm f3.5 Elmar lens and the case for a Korelle K. I already had the black camera and the case in my collection. 

1947 Elop Elca, with 3.5cm f4.5 Anastigmat Elocar lens, for 24x24mm 35mm square frame format

Recent acquisitions also include some miniature 127 format cameras which I will post in a few days.

William 

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[wlaidlaw]

The Korelle is a bit reminiscent of the Berning Robot camera. I suppose form follows function of the 24x 24 format. 

Willson

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[willeica]

13 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

The Korelle is a bit reminiscent of the Berning Robot camera. I suppose form follows function of the 24x 24 format. 

Willson

It is much smaller than the Robot, Wilson. With my collecting habit I have stayed away from Robots to avoid falling down another rabbit hole. I have one which is a Swedish Air Force reconnaissance model, not suitable for the normal land based photography. Like the British made Reids the Korelle K is a beautiful thing, but is very quirky as regards maintenance. The mechanism around the shutter is very prone to locking up and needs constant attention. The camera also needs a special cassette to receive the film and these are rarely seen. I have only once seen a camera on sale with the cassette which resembles the Leitz FILCA. What got me into the Korelle K was the rare Leitz lens option which only became available after the Meyer, Schneider and Zeiss options had been available for some time. We must also remember that in the early 1930s Zeiss was the cream of the crop and Leitz had yet to fully make its reputation as a camera lens maker. Leitz made 3.5 , 5 and 7.5 cm lenses for the Kochmann Korelle K. I found a Korelle K with an ordinary Leitz 3.5cm lens for bellows cameras on it, but I had to search to find the special one for the Korelle K, which is fully specced with aperture and focus controls, but much smaller than the 3.5 cm Elmar for a Leica - see below. This will also give some idea of the size of the Korelle K.

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These Leitz Elmar 3.5 cm lenses are rarely seen, the Leitz 5 cm has never been seen and I have only seen one example of the 7.5cm Leitz lens, although there is a rumour that a second one may exist. So we are talking about the skin on hens' teeth here 😁 much more rare than most sought after Leitz/Leica collector's items. 

Attached below is the period catalogue for the Korelle K which includes the Leitz options as an addendum at the end.

William 

00666.pdf