shirubadanieru Posted February 9, 2021 Share #201 Posted February 9, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here in Asia too no updates at all. I have a reservation both in a Leica store & with an official reseller but nothing so far. They said February so still a few weeks to go 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 Hi shirubadanieru, Take a look here Review: Leica Noctilux 50mm f1.2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
farnz Posted February 9, 2021 Share #202 Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, T25UFO said: I heard from my dealer there are just three chrome lenses coming to the UK. No idea who will have them, but I guess they are all pre-sold. I'm on the list for a black one and decided to pay up front to secure earliest delivery slot. Don't know when that will be, but I am also patient! Leica Mayfair told me last week that they had had one and that was all they would get. (That one was already pre-sold and they have a 40+ waiting list that will not be fulfilled of course.) Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 9, 2021 Share #203 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) I am surprised that there are that many Leica collectors with sufficient disposable funds looking to buy the chrome 1.2 Nocti. Are they really Leica collectors or Leica speculators? I wonder. The very substantial increases in film M and rare cameras like 250 Reporter valuations over the last 18 months, only means additional insurance premiums for me, as I am only very rarely a seller. I suppose that in due course, good Barnack values will also start to grow. Wilson Edited February 9, 2021 by wlaidlaw 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2021 Share #204 Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) How do they replicate the hand polishing and grinding of glass performed by the 2 designers on the original? and if they simply get around that stuff with modern techniques does that mean the lens becomes a bit of a fraud? How does leica go about replicating that type of painstaking operation regarding the glass elements of the original? Edited February 9, 2021 by steve 1959 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 10, 2021 Share #205 Posted February 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, steve 1959 said: How do they replicate the hand polishing and grinding of glass performed by the 2 designers on the original? and if they simply get around that stuff with modern techniques does that mean the lens becomes a bit of a fraud? How does leica go about replicating that type of painstaking operation regarding the glass elements of the original? When the lens was produced I don't think Leica did hand polishing of the ASPH elements just for the fun of it. There was simply no other way at the time of doing it and this led to a lot of unusable copies. Now pretty much all lenses are ASPH so obviously it's very easy to replicate ASPH elements without having to do it by hand. But who knows, maybe they did it for the chrome version just for the fun of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted February 10, 2021 Share #206 Posted February 10, 2021 Still no sign of the f1.2 Noctilux in the US, so far as I can tell, other than in the Leica Store Miami presentation Saturday. But there is a development I appreciate. Sean Reid, in his Reid Reviews (pay wall), has up an initial review of the lens, and it only heightens my interest. It is not yet his in-depth review - this is more of an impressionistic take on an impressionistic lens, and it very positive. He talks about its solid build, its great bokeh and precision stopped down. Most important, Sean has a number of images that push back against the impression I had gotten from some pictures published online: that the in-focus area wide open is just too soft. He makes clear that while this is by no means the lens that the f/0.95 Nocti is, it’s a very worthy modern lens. Yes, behind a paywall, and this isn’t meant to set off a new round of commentary between Sean’s fans and detractors, but like his friend Jono, I rely on Sean’s work and he makes a nice case for the 1.2 used with both an M10-R and an SL2. Can’t wait. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flu Posted February 10, 2021 Share #207 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) My local Leica Store in the US source a black for me yesterday! They only received 1 so far so I'm very honored to get it. I'm hoping my luck continues as now I'm waiting on the silver one. #pray Edited February 10, 2021 by Flu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted February 10, 2021 Share #208 Posted February 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Flu said: My local Leica Store in the US source a black for me yesterday! They only received 1 so far so I'm very honored to get it. I'm hoping my luck continues as now I'm waiting on the silver one. #pray Where is ur local Store? Hoping it’s a sign of things to come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flu Posted February 11, 2021 Share #209 Posted February 11, 2021 6 hours ago, neekon said: Where is ur local Store? Hoping it’s a sign of things to come I'm in WA state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted February 11, 2021 Share #210 Posted February 11, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 6:47 PM, wlaidlaw said: am surprised that there are that many Leica collectors with sufficient disposable funds looking to buy the chrome 1.2 Nocti. Are they really Leica collectors or Leica speculators? I think for some you are spot-on. You will see the lens a week later for 40k listed by Schouten and Boris! If Pete's figure of a 40+ waiting list is extrapolated to total demand, how can Leica pass on that much revenue? Like you I have difficulty to see such demand at the price set - and of course if it is not limited it takes the speculators out. Crazy times. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted February 11, 2021 Share #211 Posted February 11, 2021 It is not beyond resonable speculation that once the dust settles there will be likely "special" edition in chrome or some other exotic material, maybe cheese made from dr Kaufmann's own cows. It will come with some minor twist not to piss off first buyers each coughing 15K for the lens. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted February 11, 2021 Share #212 Posted February 11, 2021 Reports that the price of the hard to find new silver chrome version is rocketing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted February 11, 2021 Share #213 Posted February 11, 2021 Assuming black & chrome manufacture cost is similar Leica is profiting 200 x 7500 = 1,500,000 on 200 chrome units alone. What private speculators do is feeding into the company legend. As i stated earlier it makes perfect sense to realise some more once initial dust settles. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 11, 2021 Share #214 Posted February 11, 2021 https://www.leicastoresf.com/blog/noctilux-vs-noctilux 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoEd Posted February 11, 2021 Share #215 Posted February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, padam said: https://www.leicastoresf.com/blog/noctilux-vs-noctilux Thank you for the link. I'm eagerly waiting for a copy of this beauty 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 11, 2021 Share #216 Posted February 11, 2021 Unboxing: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted February 11, 2021 Share #217 Posted February 11, 2021 Ennh - when the M9 came out and I got mine in the first batch, I immediately got an offer from someone on this forum to sell it to them for $2000 over the list price. (I didn't). Line-jumping by the wealthy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted February 11, 2021 Share #218 Posted February 11, 2021 vor 44 Minuten schrieb Al Brown: The new Noctilux 1.2 is experiencing FOMO and mooning not unlike the crypto world. Incredible. And Leica is fostering it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2021 Share #219 Posted February 11, 2021 Leica are exploiting their history for profit. Well done leica. Manufacture a mediocre lens [in 2021] and sell them at very high prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 11, 2021 Share #220 Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, steve 1959 said: Manufacture a mediocre lens [in 2021] and sell them at very high prices Perhaps mediocre by today's standards but far from mediocre by the standards of the day. A ground-breaking lens that was the first to have two aspherical surfaces that had to be painstakingly manually ground resulting in a very high attrition rate and consequent high production cost. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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