M10Alpine Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share #21  Posted December 30, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I did a 700€ reservation payment today for a black one so I think we will see it in February I'm quite sure. And the limited Silver is 15.000€ as I opted out on that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edax Posted December 30, 2020 Share #22  Posted December 30, 2020 7000€ for a limited edition black chrome Noctilux-M 50 f/1.2, that would be cheaper than a 'standard' (7500€) APO-Summicron-M 50 f/2.0... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M10Alpine Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share #23  Posted December 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, Edax said: 7000€ for a limited edition black chrome Noctilux-M 50 f/1.2, that would be cheaper than a 'standard' (7500€) APO-Summicron-M 50 f/2.0...  Its not limited from what they told me, its going to be made in 1800 copies. Only Silver is limited to 100 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted December 30, 2020 Share #24  Posted December 30, 2020 The older thread BTW…  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLeica Posted December 30, 2020 Share #25 Â Posted December 30, 2020 What am I thinking? Hmm.. I can't afford it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 30, 2020 Share #26  Posted December 30, 2020 9 hours ago, M10Alpine said:  Its not limited from what they told me, its going to be made in 1800 copies. Only Silver is limited to 100 Of course it is limited to 100 pieces, until they get sold. Providing it sells well nothing to stop them adding small design twist or do nothing  and release another batch soon after, maybe to commemorate one of the company milestone anniversaries, or pet animal birthdays of one of the Leica celebrate photographers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 30, 2020 Share #27  Posted December 30, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 15 minutes ago, mmradman said: Of course it is limited to 100 pieces, until they get sold. Providing it sells well nothing to stop them adding small design twist or do nothing  and release another batch soon after, maybe to commemorate one of the company milestone anniversaries, or pet animal birthdays of one of the Leica celebrate photographers. If it's the case, I see nothing wrong with that : 100 for fortunate 100 (or more if required), they would sell well at double of price (I can be wrong ! ) 1800 for users this number can vary I think depending on market demand. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 30, 2020 Share #28  Posted December 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: If it's the case, I see nothing wrong with that : 100 for fortunate 100 (or more if required), they would sell well at double of price (I can be wrong ! ) 1800 for users this number can vary I think depending on market demand. I agree, nothing wrong with selling as much as you can get away with. Only trying to point out that Limited editions are limited in name only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 30, 2020 Share #29  Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, mmradman said: I agree, nothing wrong with selling as much as you can get away with. Only trying to point out that Limited editions are limited in name only. Marketing of "Limited Market" from Leica 🙃. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted December 31, 2020 Share #30  Posted December 31, 2020 20 hours ago, mmradman said: I agree, nothing wrong with selling as much as you can get away with. Only trying to point out that Limited editions are limited in name only. Please note that in the case of the LHSA Hammertone, MP3, 50 Summilux ASPH and 50 APO, they were strictly limited to the numbers advertised by us. We felt this was very important to maintain their exclusivity, and hence the demand for our limited editions. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 31, 2020 Share #31  Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, derleicaman said: Please note that in the case of the LHSA Hammertone, MP3, 50 Summilux ASPH and 50 APO, they were strictly limited to the numbers advertised by us. We felt this was very important to maintain their exclusivity, and hence the demand for our limited editions. Of course it would be, it was commissioned by third party limited edition. Ever since idea of remake of 50mm f1.2 was floated earlier this year (2020) my view was that it would make little sense for Leica to reinvent tooling to produce vintage lens in limited numbers only.  In case of LHSA optics cells were identical to mainstream lenses, only change was cosmetic externals. I think you would agree that in terms of manufacturing it is easier and cheaper to machine external barrels than optical cells. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted December 31, 2020 Share #32  Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, a.noctilux said: 1800 for users this number can vary I think depending on market demand. If you can't wait, a well known Dealer has an original for €47,500, and it does include hood. https://www.schouten-select.com/index.php/products/leica/leica-50mm-f1-2-noctilux-12503-hood-box-extremely-rare.html Edited December 31, 2020 by pedaes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 31, 2020 Share #33  Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mmradman said: Of course it would be, it was commissioned by third party limited edition. Ever since idea of remake of 50mm f1.2 was floated earlier this year (2020) my view was that it would make little sense for Leica to reinvent tooling to produce vintage lens in limited numbers only.  In case of LHSA optics cells were identical to mainstream lenses, only change was cosmetic externals. I think you would agree that in terms of manufacturing it is easier and cheaper to machine external barrels than optical cells. If you mean reinventing the machining of asphericals surfaces (2) of the original Nocti 1,2... it was a terribly costly process AT THOSE TIMES... nowadays CNC technology is relatively cheap even for grinding such components with complex geometry (I have direct evidence of this in the automotive lamps reflectors - many do involve aspherical surfaces) , and... will someone verify if the glass elements are EXACTLY like in the historical Noctilux ? 😉.. it's a honest 6 elements design, after all... for users who will compare it to modern and more complex designs... Edited December 31, 2020 by luigi bertolotti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 31, 2020 Share #34  Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, luigi bertolotti said: If you mean reinventing the machining of asphericals surfaces (2) of the original Nocti 1,2... it was a terribly costly process AT THOSE TIMES... nowadays CNC technology is relatively cheap even for grinding such components with complex geometry (I have direct evidence of this in the automotive lamps reflectors - many do involve aspherical surfaces) , and... will someone verify if the glass elements are EXACTLY like in the historical Noctilux ? 😉.. it's a honest 6 elements design, after all... If making aspheric lens element is cheap nowadays just do it but please keep onion rings out.  Being a little bit facetious isn’t that cheating? Edited December 31, 2020 by mmradman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Posted January 1, 2021 Share #35  Posted January 1, 2021 On 12/29/2020 at 6:40 PM, M10Alpine said: I did a 700€ reservation payment today for a black one so I think we will see it in February I'm quite sure. And the limited Silver is 15.000€ as I opted out on that. Very cool, could you please share the dealer contact for reservation.Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M10Alpine Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share #36 Â Posted January 2, 2021 17 hours ago, Moby said: Very cool, could you please share the dealer contact for reservation.Thanks Any Leica Store I would assume Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Posted January 2, 2021 Share #37 Â Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, M10Alpine said: Any Leica Store I would assume Thank you Alphine but no luck here in certain US dealers, any ref will certainly be helpful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted January 2, 2021 Share #38  Posted January 2, 2021 On 12/29/2020 at 12:24 PM, Dr No said: I think the rumour is €15,000. I think I will sure sell my Rolls Royce to fund this new Noctilux f1.2 as soon as it's in the shops. Never leave home without it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2021 Share #39  Posted January 2, 2021 vor 1 Stunde schrieb epand56: I think I will sure sell my Rolls Royce to fund this new Noctilux f1.2 as soon as it's in the shops. Never leave home without it. What kind of shabby, rusty Rolls-Royce could that be for only 15,000€?😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted January 2, 2021 Share #40  Posted January 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, mnutzer said: What kind of shabby, rusty Rolls-Royce could that be for only 15,000€?😎 Hmm https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/201903236190068?postcode=ox184tt&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-asc&include-delivery-option=on&make=ROLLS-ROYCE&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&page=1 £10k but they start around £7k.....😀 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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