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hi im italian and i found this very old camera it is 100% real is the leica from 1936 olimpic version what is it s value???

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374513 is an odd serial number to use because it is 5 years later than the Berlin Olympics and well into World War II.  Strictly speaking it is not a Leica copy because there was no original Leica to copy it from.

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Well, it's a real Zorki, made in the USSR a couple of decades after the Berlin Olympics:

http://swcornell.com/camera/zorkic2c.html

Someone has stripped off the chrome, ground down the original engravings, and added fake 'Leica' engravings and a 'lizardskin' body covering. Fakes like this are very common, and this is a rather crude example. The original camera doesn't look much like a Leica, and they haven't bothered to polish the brass. The lens will also be Russian, probably an Industar that has been similarly treated.

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14 hours ago, Rrdaca said:

The real one how much is worth?

There is no real one. Leica never made cameras with these engravings or a 1936 Olympic one of any kind. As others have pointed out, this is a Russian design which is similar to, but not an exact copy of any Leica camera.

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What about this then? Doesnt seem to look fake to me, and I tried the shutter it was incredible, mint mint condition ? Is this fake too? 

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Umm... Somebody has gone slightly over the top with engravings to put it mildly. I fear that "Olympischen Spielen" is spelt without "n" on the end when standing alone... And it should be Optisches Institut. Maybe they should have gotten a person familiar with German to produce this fantasy... This is a Leica II serial number, the Leica iiic K was produced from 1940 onwards...

It is one of the fakests fakes I have ever seen. Curiosity value only -- Woops - we don't do valuations... 🤣

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Lol so fake it's unreal, like they kept on adding on engraving after engraving as temptation for a buyer in the hope somebody gets dazzled like a bunny rabbit in the headlights.

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vor 13 Stunden schrieb jaapv:

I fear that "Olympischen Spielen" is spelt without "n" on the end when standing alone... And it should be Optisches Institut. Maybe they should have gotten a person familiar with German to produce this fantasy...

You are right, jaapv, the engraver was definitely not well experienced with the German language.

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On 6/1/2024 at 4:55 PM, jaapv said:

Umm... Somebody has gone slightly over the top with engravings to put it mildly. I fear that "Olympischen Spielen" is spelt without "n" on the end when standing alone... And it should be Optisches Institut. Maybe they should have gotten a person familiar with German to produce this fantasy... This is a Leica II serial number, the Leica iiic K was produced from 1940 onwards...

It is one of the fakests fakes I have ever seen. Curiosity value only -- Woops - we don't do valuations... 🤣

Definite fake. No Leicas were made or decorated like this.The clincher should be the rangefinder cam which would be triangular (balalaika) on an FSU item and round (banjo) on a genuine Leica. It might work well as a user camera, but it is not a Leica. 
 

William 

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