I hope the SL2-S will cure my GAS🤔

[Flyer]

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I have suffered from GAS for several years having owned too many cameras to list. It's not that I don't use cameras I am an experienced photographer and since early retirement have been out regularly taking images. But have have never found the perfect camera (I know that does not exist). That said I must have lost thousands of pounds in recent years and it has to stop. I agreed with my wife a budget of 8k and then hand my credit cards over!!!!!! I know its not about the equipment, it's about the person behind the camera and consequently I now need to commit to keep to the SL2-S and associated lenses for at least a year. If anyone else has GAS I am sure you will appreciate where I am coming from. Strange really because most other purchases have lasted many years. Fingers crossed! 

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[Chaemono]

vor 28 Minuten schrieb Flyer:

...But have have never found the perfect camera (I know that does not exist)...

SL2S comes pretty close. It combines speed, DR, high ISO/low-light performance, malleability of files, AWB as an easy starting point, and colors that need little tweaking like no other camera.

[isleofgough]

Incurable disease but you can limit it with therapy

[farnz]

1 hour ago, Flyer said:

I have suffered from GAS for several years having owned too many cameras to list.

As your self-appointed therapist it's a vitally important part of your therapy that you hand over all of your photographic equipment to me so that you will not be tempted to use them and needlessly cause yourself to regress.  I undertake to take good care of them and return them to you when your GAS is completely cured.  Completely.

The therapist claims no training or competence and denies any claims that may be outstanding against him.  Photographic equipment return cannot be guaranteed after 16th December 2020.  Regrettably no compensation can be offered for photographic equipment that is not returned.  Any legal issues must be settled through my legal team at Bodge, Dodge, and Scarper Inc.

Pete. 

Edited December 14, 2020 by farnz

[Stuart Richardson]

If you are at all serious in what you say, then my advice would be to stop reading camera news and posting on camera forums. There are no perfect cameras other than the M6 classic, Mamiya 7II, and Ebony line of view cameras. I say this because they are essentially "end stage" development of their particular niches. Beautifully made, executed and any further development would mostly just be a series of tradeoffs. (For example, the M7 gives AE but becomes battery dependent and is prone to more electronic errors). Instead, use a small portion of your budget to buy a number of photography books (not technical ones, books of photographs by photographers). Stick to the SL2 S and three lenses: a wide angle lens, and standard lens and a long lens. Why not 35, 50 and 90? Lust after gear is usually related to being dissatisfied with your photos more than your gear. We've all been there. But the cure is not better cameras, it is better photos. Better photos come out of more time looking at people who take better photos than you, and more time spent taking pictures rather than trying to fix bad ones or talk about them online.

Don't get me wrong, I am susceptible as well, but gear acquisition is often just "something to do" rather than necessity.

Edited December 15, 2020 by Stuart Richardson

[nicci78]

Just like film cameras. 
Perfect digital camera won’t exist until they stop making new ones ! 
 

Film cameras cannot improve much further. Since the last batch of new model in early 2000´s 

That’s why Leica M-P or M7 are the pinnacle of analog rangefinders. 
 

 

So Stuart is right. To cure GAS just buy an excellent film camera ! 
 

Otherwise just get ready to be tempted by the next best thing. Over and over again. Until every camera manufacturers close shop. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by nicci78

[Stuart Richardson]

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Yes...film cameras are also helped by the fact that the "sensor" and the camera are not a package deal. Even though film's development has slowed, the most recent films are better today than when most of those cameras were new. Digital is obviously always improving, but it has gotten so good at this point that in practical terms the advantages are declining. In good light a Canon 5DMk II from 2008 is probably still going to look just fine. I recently traded in my S006 with a sensor that was developed in 2008, and to be completely honest, in most cases I prefer its output to the replacement.

[Chaemono]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb nicci78:

...Otherwise just get ready to be tempted by the next best thing. Over and over again. Until every camera manufacturers close shop. 

The one to eagerly await now is the 36 MPx SL3. We already have a long thread ready for that with speculation and all. Won’t even have to make an effort. We’ll just ask Jaap to pin it to the top. 😄

Edited December 15, 2020 by Chaemono

[scott kirkpatrick]

Maybe the next time I feel GAS rumbling, I can go back to the M2, M9 and X-Pan that I still have and make them sing some more.

[FlashGordonPhotography]

He who dies with the most toys, wins........

An alternate view.

Gordon

p.s. In seriousness though. If you can afford it, why not? Trying new gear and seeing what tech can do can be enjoyable in itself. A separate hobby to photography. Not really collecting. More exploring the possibilities. I would guess I have more current gear than anyone on this forum. Since I have hurt no one, pay my bills and care for my kids I see absolutely no reason I can't have any damn camera I want.

Plus there's always lenses.....

 

[OR120]

5 minutes ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

He who dies with the most toys, wins........

An alternate view.

Gordon

p.s. In seriousness though. If you can afford it, why not? Trying new gear and seeing what tech can do can be enjoyable in itself. A separate hobby to photography. Not really collecting. More exploring the possibilities. I would guess I have more current gear than anyone on this forum. Since I have hurt no one, pay my bills and care for my kids I see absolutely no reason I can't have any damn camera I want.

Plus there's always lenses.....

 

It's a good Blind Faith song - 'Do What You Like'

[Flyer]

16 hours ago, Stuart Richardson said:

If you are at all serious in what you say, then my advice would be to stop reading camera news and posting on camera forums. There are no perfect cameras other than the M6 classic, Mamiya 7II, and Ebony line of view cameras. I say this because they are essentially "end stage" development of their particular niches. Beautifully made, executed and any further development would mostly just be a series of tradeoffs. (For example, the M7 gives AE but becomes battery dependent and is prone to more electronic errors). Instead, use a small portion of your budget to buy a number of photography books (not technical ones, books of photographs by photographers). Stick to the SL2 S and three lenses: a wide angle lens, and standard lens and a long lens. Why not 35, 50 and 90? Lust after gear is usually related to being dissatisfied with your photos more than your gear. We've all been there. But the cure is not better cameras, it is better photos. Better photos come out of more time looking at people who take better photos than you, and more time spent taking pictures rather than trying to fix bad ones or talk about them online.

Don't get me wrong, I am susceptible as well, but gear acquisition is often just "something to do" rather than necessity.

Totally agree that forums don't help and often only provide more doubt and confusion. One of the reasons for buying the SL2- S is the hope it will stop me chasing the latest and greatest, its certainly does everything I need.  Here's to hoping 🤔

[toyfel]

There is only one real cure. It's called 'lack of money'

[caissa]

@Flyer

No, it won’t, for sure, if you give in and buy the SL2-S. As long as you have the money it also does not matter. If your family or your life should suffer, you really need to go and get treatment. Whatever that is. I am not even sure if this is a real disease. Maybe if you would try to steal the camera. .....    (Kleptomanie).   🤫😷

Edited December 18, 2020 by caissa

[lincoln_m]

I found my cure for GAS was black M10 and then finally got a silver 35summilux-asphFLE but I still have both a silver and black 35 summicron-asph. The 35FLE on the M10 is just amazing for landscapes at f5.6 because of the perfect MTF response. At wider apertures the images become 3D. M10 is my first digital Leica but now my MP M7 M2 don’t get used, I should probably sell M2 and silver 35F2Asph at least.

The colours from the M10 are very pleasing I have a Sony A7 with m adapter that got me away from film but now I don’t like the Sony colours grass etc when compared to M10.

I don’t use my film cameras and don’t visit the forum much now I have M10 and 35FLE expensive quality kit.

one time at Leica Mayfair I tried the 50Apo v my 50 summicron on bothM10 and SL but I couldn’t notice any differences. I think the images were focused at >4m on a sunny day. It’s 6x the price but on those cameras in those situations you wouldn’t know. Maybe on SL2 you might notice something technically different with 50ApoM?

paying off my mortgage seems more important than more kit when I have found perfection.

Better dynamic range of SL2-S does sound interesting. No no I must sell kit pay mortgage and stop thinking of low noise and anti shake IBS on SL2-S.

Lincoln

[Leicalifer]

Surprise the wife with something really nice every now and then and GAS related issues become less relevant. Do it enough and she will  do the same. Happy wife, happy life. Try it, you can’t go wrong. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Leicalifer

[Photoworks]

GAS or FOMO not a problem for the wallet.

I shop at B&H, try the stuff out and bring it back after few weeks. I don't need most of the stuff anyway

They have the SL2s in stock LOL

[FlashGordonPhotography]

On 12/30/2020 at 7:36 AM, Photoworks said:

GAS or FOMO not a problem for the wallet.

I shop at B&H, try the stuff out and bring it back after few weeks. I don't need most of the stuff anyway

They have the SL2s in stock LOL

Maybe it's an American thing?

We don't have that in Oz. You can't just return something because you wanted to try it out for a bit. If you use it, you own it. And rentals are more geared to mainstream brands like Canikony. So if I want to try a camera I go to a shop and try it in store. Then say yes or no. A few places are adding 30 day satisfaction guarantees to their sales, especially as many stores struggle to survive in this crazy new world. Most still have re-stocking fees. After all you're making something new into a used item.

And I'm not sure how I feel about just returning stuff like that. I get that it's normal in many places and even becoming so here as well as on-line shopping takes over. And if there's no way to see it in store and I'm genuinely seeing if it's suitable. But to just have a play with it when I have zero intention of buying one and making a new product used isn't something I would, personally, be comfortable with. Personally I'd be more inclined to hit up Lens Rentals. I wish we had something like that here.

Gordon

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[Photoworks]

3 minutes ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

Maybe it's an American thing?

We don't have that in Oz. You can't just return something because you wanted to try it out for a bit. If you use it, you own it. And rentals are more geared to mainstream brands like Canikony. So if I want to try a camera I go to a shop and try it in store. Then say yes or no. A few places are adding 30 day satisfaction guarantees to their sales, especially as many stores struggle to survive in this crazy new world. Most still have re-stocking fees. After all you're making something new into a used item.

And I'm not sure how I feel about just returning stuff like that. I get that it's normal in many places and even becoming so here as well as on-line shopping takes over. And if there's no way to see it in store and I'm genuinely seeing if it's suitable. But to just have a play with it when I have zero intention of buying one and making a new product used isn't something I would, personally, be comfortable with. Personally I'd be more inclined to hit up Lens Rentals. I wish we had something like that here.

Gordon

It must work out for them. I still leave thousands of $$. They do promote it that you can try it 30 days and returned it if you are not 100% happy. 

They still sell it in there used open box section.  

[Jeff S]

We are indeed fortunate to have Lensrentals here; first class operation in every way. Roger Cicala, the founder, is a great guy (he hangs around despite having sold his company’s shares).

https://m.dpreview.com/opinion/9654455337/introducing-roger-cicala

Jeff