BlueIn2Red Posted November 25, 2020 Share #1 Posted November 25, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm quite excited for these - the 24 and 65 should make a nice small-and-light set with my existing 45 (even if I wish the 65 was a bit longer). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/315485-three-new-sigma-primes-on-the-way/?do=findComment&comment=4086775'>More sharing options...
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Reggie Posted November 25, 2020 Share #2 Posted November 25, 2020 9 hours ago, BlueIn2Red said: I'm quite excited for these - the 24 and 65 should make a nice small-and-light set with my existing 45 (even if I wish the 65 was a bit longer). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you want a longer 65, there’s the recently released 70, 85 and 105 primes... and in case anyone is wondering what the lenses are... Images of Sigma 24mm F3.5, 35mm F2.0 and 65mm F2.0 DG DN Lenses Leaked Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted November 25, 2020 Thanks, I meant in this smaller form factor (especially for my fp). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capnord Posted November 26, 2020 Share #4 Posted November 26, 2020 What can be used a 2/65mm (instead of 50mm) ? I can't see the target well... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolou Pigini Posted November 26, 2020 Share #5 Posted November 26, 2020 I hear it's a pretty common focal length for videos, FP's target seems that. I guess it's not much different from a 50 f/2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted November 26, 2020 Share #6 Posted November 26, 2020 Love the 45mm, the hardest decision will be which of these to be first 24/35/65.. 24mm may be most logical I suppose. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted November 26, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, I'll start with the 24 I think, especially as it's the smallest (about the same size as the 45 I believe). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted November 26, 2020 Share #8 Posted November 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Capnord said: What can be used a 2/65mm (instead of 50mm) ? I can't see the target well... When you are not sure if you want to carry a 50 or a 75, you can pick the 65 😁 Jokes apart, I think it makes sense if paired with the 35 or 45mm. moreover, we already have the 50 Summicron & Summilux, the Panasonic 1.4 and there’s also another Panasonic 50mm 1.8 coming, plus the old Sigma art. This 65mm offers something different. if you have a look at Voigtlander’s glass, you’ll see that their 65mm macro Apo-Lanthar is one of the most well received lenses available for Sony Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted November 26, 2020 Share #9 Posted November 26, 2020 great stuff the 45 is excellent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted November 27, 2020 Share #10 Posted November 27, 2020 65mm is a great focal length. A bit longer than standard, without being much of a telephoto effect. It works well for general use, at least for me. One equivalent that is encountered pretty regularly is the 210mm Lens on a 4x5 camera, which is around 60mm equivalent (width wise). Likewise, the Leica S 70mm lens is closer to a 56mm on 35mm, so if you crop to 4x5 or 4 to 3, you wind up around the 60mm range. I am interested to see how these lenses perform. I was not a big fan of the 45mm (just too soft for my taste until stopped down), but hopefully these can improve on its performance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted November 27, 2020 Share #11 Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Great set of lenses. Im quite keen on the 35mm f2 to replace my 45mm f2.8, but honestly ive had no problems with the output of the 45, and the images are excellent imho. However, im just wondering their choice of the 24 f3.5...why not just make it f2 to keep consistent like they have been doing with their ART line up? Or rather have their DG DN series all f2.8 to focus on being compact and differentiate them from their ART series. F3.5 is a little odd...why not just f4?? Still waiting for the sigma pancake and bodycap lenses Edited November 27, 2020 by cboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted November 28, 2020 Share #12 Posted November 28, 2020 14 hours ago, cboy said: Great set of lenses. Im quite keen on the 35mm f2 to replace my 45mm f2.8, but honestly ive had no problems with the output of the 45, and the images are excellent imho. However, im just wondering their choice of the 24 f3.5...why not just make it f2 to keep consistent like they have been doing with their ART line up? Or rather have their DG DN series all f2.8 to focus on being compact and differentiate them from their ART series. F3.5 is a little odd...why not just f4?? Still waiting for the sigma pancake and bodycap lenses Maybe they couldn't fit a 2.8 lens into a smaller form factor without sacrificing quality, and they don't want to increase the size because this lens line is designed to be compact (see Sigma CEO's interview from a few months ago). PS: Leica Elmar M 24mm is F3.4 and it's a great lens 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted December 1, 2020 Sigma stream about to go live announcing these lenses: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Posted December 1, 2020 Share #14 Posted December 1, 2020 So all lenses will be available in January 2021 with the 24mm shipping last. the weights and US$ price (before taxes) are as follows; 24mm F3.5 225g US$549 35mm F2.0 325g US$639 65mm F2.0 405g US$699 They join the 45mm F2.8 to form a new lineup called the 'I' series. I can't wait! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted December 2, 2020 Share #15 Posted December 2, 2020 What does the I stand for? I thought it was the Contemporary series 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Posted December 2, 2020 Share #16 Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, cboy said: What does the I stand for? I thought it was the Contemporary series Confusing, isn't it? 'I' series sits within the Contemporary series. They'd have been better off creatiing a separate series rather than a sub-series. The 'I' stands for Incredible optical quality Impressive build quality Innovative user interface Early images and reviews of the 35mm and 65mm suggest that Sigma has played it safe with the detail/rendering tradeoff on these new lenses and lost some of the magic which made the 45mm so special (and controversial). I'm holding out hope that the 24mm has a character closer to the 45mm. The MTF charts suggest that this could be so. Edited December 2, 2020 by Reggie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted December 3, 2020 Share #17 Posted December 3, 2020 The review I saw seemed to suggest there were no trade offs, and the sharpness and detail of the 35mm seemed better than the 45mm. I will definitely pick up the 35mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Posted December 3, 2020 Share #18 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris W said: The review I saw seemed to suggest there were no trade offs, and the sharpness and detail of the 35mm seemed better than the 45mm. And this is the problem. The extra sharpness and detail of the 35mm and 65mm has led to a more busy OOF render and less graduated focus transition zone. There's a growing view that there might even be a subset of 'I' lenses within the range; the 35 & 65 being the fast and sharp pair whilst the 24 & 45 are the slow and smooth pair. The 45mm is only soft wide open at close focus. It's as sharp as the 35mm when stopped down at close focus or wide open when the focus point is >3 metres. This is caused by uncorrected spherical abberation. Too many reviews these days focus on sharpness and detail because these parameters can be quantified. There is rarely any mention of rendering quality because we have yet to measure it objectively. The 45mm 2.8 is a classic example of a lens which measures poorly but renders beautifully. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted December 3, 2020 Share #19 Posted December 3, 2020 And we still wait and wait for the 21-24-28 Trio of APO Summicrons to arrive from Leica. My feeling is these will never see the light of day. Extremely disappointed with Leica's roll out of product. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyfel Posted December 5, 2020 Share #20 Posted December 5, 2020 On 12/3/2020 at 6:30 PM, jplomley said: And we still wait and wait for the 21-24-28 Trio of APO Summicrons to arrive from Leica. My feeling is these will never see the light of day. Extremely disappointed with Leica's roll out of product. Yeah, quite outrageous that they did not plan for a pandemic in 2020/21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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