Kamyar Posted October 20, 2020 Share #1 Posted October 20, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey guys. i have problem with change shutter speed on tl2. Sometimes he becomes dumb. Sometimes speeds do not change in order. Both up and down. But when I make this change less quickly, the result is better. Is this a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrozenInTime Posted October 20, 2020 Share #2 Posted October 20, 2020 Sounds like a rotary encoder issue ; do similar jumps happen when the dial is assigned to exposure compensation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamyar Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted October 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: Sounds like a rotary encoder issue ; do similar jumps happen when the dial is assigned to exposure compensation ? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamyar Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 1:32 AM, FrozenInTime said: Sounds like a rotary encoder issue ; do similar jumps happen when the dial is assigned to exposure compensation ? What is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted October 22, 2020 Share #5 Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) I'm not sure compressed air will help or not. It's not completely clear but looks like the rotary encoder switches are soldered on to the main board ( I can't see a top panel board, but it might be there ) - see picture 9 in this T build set. Leica probably went to a company like ALPS for customization https://tech.alpsalpine.com/prod/e/html/encorder.html https://www.dpreview.com/articles/2481937230/solid-metal-creating-the-leica-t?slide=9 Worst case they will want to change the main board. Edited October 22, 2020 by FrozenInTime 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 23, 2020 Share #6 Posted October 23, 2020 I hoped not. Desoldering and resoldering is a very easy task for such elements. I really hate when a technician said that he has to change the whole board. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted October 23, 2020 Share #7 Posted October 23, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, nicci78 said: I hoped not. Desoldering and resoldering is a very easy task for such elements. I really hate when a technician said that he has to change the whole board. Weren’t you a real technician? Or just a fake one without any basic knowledge in electronics. Rework of PCBs with SMT components is no longer a trivial affair, and considered a separate skill, so modular replacement is the new norm for low cost PCAs. Reconditioned assemblies may be considered if the cost of board is high. With lead free RoHS solder, the temperatures are higher; for multi-pin devices, hot air preheat is needed, possibly masking of the board away from the rework part and hot air pencil application to the fault part. Then once it's off; cleaning of the pads , repasting , part alignment and reflow. All of this done under the microscope while avoiding accidentally nudging surrounding components or lifting pads and traces if there is a mix of SMT and through hole pins. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 23, 2020 Share #8 Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) I beg to differ, when you see what kind of prowess independent workshops can do to repair any kind of electronics (including iPhones and MacBooks) at the component level for pennies. You will be surprised. They are only held back by difficult access to spare parts. Shame on Apple by the way, about this topic. Manufacturers just want us to believe that it is difficult. But guess what ? It is so simple. They just want us to buy a brand new one instead of repairing. Arguing that cost of repair will be close to new. Tutorials are all over the internet to learn how to it easily and safely Viva right to repairs. Those guys are amazing. And they are doing much more good to the planet than Apple by removing charger brick 🧱 Edited October 23, 2020 by nicci78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 23, 2020 Share #9 Posted October 23, 2020 Not sure if there are independent workshops accepting to repair a TL2 this way. Any names to suggest? Just curious. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 23, 2020 Share #10 Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) I don’t know any for cameras. It is still quite rare in France. And they are mainly focusing on Apple products. This kind of repair is still in its infancy. They need more supports. Favorable laws. Easy access to spare parts and to technical guides. Of course every manufacturers are doing everything they can to prevent such things. Edited October 23, 2020 by nicci78 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted October 23, 2020 Share #11 Posted October 23, 2020 Actually manufacturers can repair everything at component level. They are doing it to recycled for the part they exchange against a new one. Making big bucks on the process. We really need independent workshops to shake up the tree and force manufacturers to do the right thing for the planet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamyar Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted November 6, 2020 Left dial is good working example on ISO. Only on shutter speed is confusing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 7, 2020 Share #13 Posted November 7, 2020 How old is the camera? Guaranty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamyar Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, jaapv said: How old is the camera? Guaranty? No yet Edited November 7, 2020 by Kamyar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted November 8, 2020 Share #15 Posted November 8, 2020 I had a similar problem with the four way controller on my X2 some years ago. I sent it in to Leica USA and they repaired it, called it a warranty even though the camera was past the warranty date. It's worth a try to call Leica service and see what they have to say. G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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