NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4 AI-s + Leica M10 combo

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1 hour ago, Dennis said:

I really love my Thumbs Up, a lot. But I'm willing to switch to the Thumbie (which I didn't know before) if this give me a free hot shoe to use.

Doesn't exist this version for M10, right? Why?

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The reason that doesn't exist for the M10 is because it would get in the way of the thumb wheel and grip, and would only allow you to use an OVF because there are no  electrical contacts for a flash or Visoflex.

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[Dennis]

1 hour ago, 250swb said:

The reason that doesn't exist for the M10 is because it would get in the way of the thumb wheel and grip, and would only allow you to use an OVF because there are no  electrical contacts for a flash or Visoflex.

Thanks, it makes sense. But it's possible to have one for the M10 with a cold shoe, if one wants to use ONLY external OVF. For example I want to get an Elmar 24 3.8, and I would love to use it in combo with an external OVF, let's keep everything much optical as possible 🙂 Does it work (on an M10) a Thumbs Up with cold shoe on top with an external VF?

By the way, are you the mighty, one and only Thumbie guy?

[250swb]

28 minutes ago, Dennis said:

By the way, are you the mighty, one and only Thumbie guy?

Just don't ask me to comment on the Thumbs Up 😉

[farnz]

4 hours ago, 250swb said:

The reason that doesn't exist for the M10 is because it would get in the way of the thumb wheel and grip, and would only allow you to use an OVF because there are no  electrical contacts for a flash or Visoflex.

Is the thumbwheel and grip on the M10 so different from the M240, Steve?  

I recall that you made Thumbies for the M240 that I happily used for 5 years until my M240 got fed up with me and found itself a new owner.

Pete.

[Dennis]

3 hours ago, 250swb said:

Just don't ask me to comment on the Thumbs Up 😉

Promised! 🙌

 

[norm_snyder]

I can highly recommend the Thumbie, originally designed for the M240 and used by me on my M10 for a couple of years with no problem.  I got it so that I could use the Visoflex 020 with some adapted lenses (some R mount, a couple of Nikon AIs) and still have the thumb grip.  Absolutely no problems!

Edited September 1, 2020 by norm_snyder

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7 hours ago, farnz said:

Is the thumbwheel and grip on the M10 so different from the M240, Steve?  

I recall that you made Thumbies for the M240 that I happily used for 5 years until my M240 got fed up with me and found itself a new owner.

Pete.

Sorry Pete, I thought that one shown with the accessory shoe was for the M9, my mistake. Re-the Thumbie the M240 and M10 versions are the same thing.

[farnz]

4 hours ago, 250swb said:

Sorry Pete, I thought that one shown with the accessory shoe was for the M9, my mistake. Re-the Thumbie the M240 and M10 versions are the same thing.

There you go, @Dennis, there's a ready-made Thumbie for your M10.

I have used Thumbies on my M8's M9P, and M240 for more than 10 years and have been thoroughly happy with them if that helps?  The 'vehicle-grade' self-adhesive tape is easily strong enough for the job, has not weakened with use, and the Thumbie and tape is easily removed with a twist when required without leaving any residue or marks on the camera's bodywork.

(For full disclosure, I have no connection to the Thumbie product or Steve other than as a satisfied customer.)

Pete.

[a.noctilux]

Let's return to SLR lenses, as I have them and played with some to mount on my Leica M over years.

Never had them in pics, though, so I took family portraits for fun 😄.

 

Nikkor AIS 1.4/50, Zeiss Contax 1.4/50, Zuiko OM 1.2/55,

and why not two Summilux-M 50mm ...on LP records of my favorite composer

 

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please don't ask me about their results on M, I can't show

as results from Leica lenses are easier to obtain with M bodies

[Dennis]

4 hours ago, farnz said:

There you go, @Dennis, there's a ready-made Thumbie for your M10.

I have used Thumbies on my M8's M9P, and M240 for more than 10 years and have been thoroughly happy with them if that helps?  The 'vehicle-grade' self-adhesive tape is easily strong enough for the job, has not weakened with use, and the Thumbie and tape is easily removed with a twist when required without leaving any residue or marks on the camera's bodywork.

(For full disclosure, I have no connection to the Thumbie product or Steve other than as a satisfied customer.)

Pete.

There we go Pete. I guess it would be time to switch to Thumbie 🙂 If do the same, but it doesn't interfere with the hot shoe, we have the winner. I didn;t know it was existing 

3 hours ago, a.noctilux said:

Never had them in pics, though, so I took family portraits for fun 😄.

Good job! Thank you for sharing your collection, it's awesome. I'm sure it's fun to shoot with Nikkor lenses.

[farnz]

1 hour ago, Dennis said:

There we go Pete. I guess it would be time to switch to Thumbie 🙂 If do the same, but it doesn't interfere with the hot shoe, we have the winner. I didn;t know it was existing

I confirm that it doesn't interfere with the hot shoe and I used my EVF2 with my M240 with the Thumbie without a problem.

Pete.

[250swb]

I'm not trying to be deep and mysterious guys but I make Thumbies as a sideline and if I promote them on the forum there are consequences, unlike 'independent' camera reviewers in the pay of Leica. Messaging is always open.

Edited September 2, 2020 by 250swb

[Dennis]

And this It speaks well about you. I will send you soon a DM, I appreciate it.

[JoeLeica]

I shoot with MF Nikkor glass on my M10, usually with the 50 1.4 AI-S. I can cream the BG more than with any Leica glass, but only because it can focus way closer! The 50 1.4 is soft wide open but sharp by f/2. I used to shoot Nikon and I’m shocked to see that the Nikkor 50 1.4 is so huge compared to Leica glass, whereas in the DSLR world, that 50 1.4 is considered tiny   

The other Nikkor that works well with the M10 is the W-Nikkor 3.5cm 2.5! Not to mention it looks beautiful! I can post sample pics if you’d like.

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I use the Fotasy F to M adapter. You will have to use live view to compose and move the camera back and forth to fine tune focus (while turning the MF ring)

Frankly it’s a pain to operate like that. Not to mention the M1O eats batteries on live view. This isn’t a D4s

Edited September 4, 2020 by JoeLeica

[Dennis]

6 hours ago, JoeLeica said:

I shoot with MF Nikkor glass on my M10, usually with the 50 1.4 AI-S.

The 50 1.4 is soft wide open but sharp by f/2.

I use the Fotasy F to M adapter. You will have to use live view to compose and move the camera back and forth to fine tune focus (while turning the MF ring)

Frankly it’s a pain to operate like that. Not to mention the M1O eats batteries on live view. This isn’t a D4s

Thank you for the feedback Joe, very helpful information. It could be fun to use another brand lenses not made for RF, but there are many limitations.

If I'll have an adapter in the future, I'll give a try. So far, as 50mm, I shot with my Cron V 😃

[Dennis]

I just posted in another thread, and I forgot I have my own thread about it 🤣

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I can't recall where, I found great photos taken with M camera and a 58/1.4G, which in one of my favorite lens ever.

Do you think I can buy only ONE adapter to use both lenses on my M10? My fastest lens is a 50 Cron v5... I don't want to buy another 50 to shoot at f/1.4 only. But I want this f/stop soon in my gear. So, I was just wondering if with the 50s I already have, I can have great results on an M with a Nikkor glass buying only one piece.

🤷‍♂️ Honestly, no idea. 

 

 

[farnz]

Hi Dennis,

Even if you could find an adapter your 58/1.4G will only work at full aperture because it has no aperture ring so you won't be able to stop it down.

Pete.

[david strachan]

Dennis

You need to buy Nikkor lenses with adjustable aperture rings.  They are common enough, i use many, and are generally pretty good lenses particularly some of the zoom Nikkors.

Your automatic lens needs to be taken off your Nikon camera "live" using the aperture control, in camera, holding the depth of field preview button, and removing the lens.  This way the lens will hold chosen aperture for use on you Leica with suitable adapter.

Which is not very satisfactory being stuck with one aperture hole..

Edited February 24, 2021 by david strachan

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[Dennis]

6 hours ago, farnz said:

Even if you could find an adapter your 58/1.4G will only work at full aperture because it has no aperture ring so you won't be able to stop it down.

 

5 hours ago, david strachan said:

Your automatic lens needs to be taken off your Nikon camera "live" using the aperture control, in camera, holding the depth of field preview button, and removing the lens.  This way the lens will hold chosen aperture for use on you Leica with suitable adapter.

Thank you, I see. But it's not bad. Because I can use the Leica 50 at any aperture, and I would use my 58/1.4 wide open ONLY. That's actually what I want to do. I'm not interested on use the 58/G at any aperture, only the one I don't reach with my 50 Leica. Does it make sense? 

Having a 50 AIS (with the aperture ring) and the 58/1.4G (w/o), do you think there is one adapter that can be used for both lenses to shoot wide open only?

 

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23 minutes ago, Dennis said:

 

Thank you, I see. But it's not bad. Because I can use the Leica 50 at any aperture, and I would use my 58/1.4 wide open ONLY. That's actually what I want to do. I'm not interested on use the 58/G at any aperture, only the one I don't reach with my 50 Leica. Does it make sense? 

Having a 50 AIS (with the aperture ring) and the 58/1.4G (w/o), do you think there is one adapter that can be used for both lenses to shoot wide open only?

 

I get you, but I think the issue is that with the G lenses the lens does the opposite - the aperture is stopped down when the lens is not mounted on the (nikon) camera. Because of this, those G lenses would have to be used at f16/f22 with a standard adapter. Correct me if i'm wrong, it's been a while since I last touched a Nikon F-mount camera and AF-S/G lenses.

This said, I believe there are some adapters which allow Nikon F to Leica M with aperture control, even for G lenses. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/869958-REG/Novoflex_LEM_NIK_NT_Lens_Adapter_for_Nikon.html/reviews

I have never used one myself but such adapters might be an option. Or you can use AI/AI-S/AF-D lenses with the standard non-aperture control adapters.

Edited February 24, 2021 by chasdfg