tracyprestige Posted April 12, 2020 Share #1 Â Posted April 12, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) As described in the title, found some dust behind the front element of the viewfinder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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otto.f Posted April 12, 2020 Share #2  Posted April 12, 2020 No, not at all, even in older camera’s like M4 I’ve seen it not as much as you would expect from 60 year old camera’s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 12, 2020 Share #3 Â Posted April 12, 2020 Some later M models had a different design of viewfinder eyepiece that wasn't 'sealed' and Leica modified it. Maybe you have one of those. Otherwise not, dust isn't a problem, not to say that it can't get in there at all, just not in any significant way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 12, 2020 Share #4 Â Posted April 12, 2020 8 hours ago, tracyprestige said: As described in the title, found some dust behind the front element of the viewfinder. How are you cleaning the inside of the camera? Rocket blower? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyprestige Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share #5 Â Posted April 12, 2020 3 hours ago, jdlaing said: How are you cleaning the inside of the camera? Rocket blower? Yes, I cleaned the sensor using the rocket blower once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 12, 2020 Share #6  Posted April 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, tracyprestige said: Yes, I cleaned the sensor using the rocket blower once. That’ll do it. Next time try not to get the tip of the blower in past the lens mount. Also avoid aiming it up into the top plate area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted April 12, 2020 Share #7  Posted April 12, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Suck, don’t blow. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyprestige Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #8  Posted April 13, 2020 Just back from the customer service center in my city. I was told cleaning up the viewfinder alone costs approximately 300 USD. The serivce guy told me the viewfinder and the camera body is not completely sealed and there is chance dust will get inside after the cleaning. Also he told me the sample models in leica shops would also be sent to service center to clean up. Hope this information would be helpfull for you guys. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted April 13, 2020 Share #9 Â Posted April 13, 2020 So, M10 weather sealing is kind of hoax? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyprestige Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #10 Â Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Ko.Fe. said: So, M10 weather sealing is kind of hoax? I asked about that aspect and the service guy told me the body is only weather resistent, not in any way weather proof. Considering no M-mount lens is weather resistent, I would say, leica is not the kind of camera you could use in heavy rain or dust environment. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted April 13, 2020 Share #11  Posted April 13, 2020 Doesn’t sound like a dealer who has a record of established contacts with Leica. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyprestige Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #12  Posted April 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, otto.f said: Doesn’t sound like a dealer who has a record of established contacts with Leica. Thank you for the reply. It actually is the official service center and the shop mentioned by the technician is the flagship shop in my city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted April 13, 2020 Share #13  Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, tracyprestige said: Thank you for the reply. It actually is the official service center and the shop mentioned by the technician is the flagship shop in my city. Well, maybe Leica has changed in the service department the last few years - I read more stories here about reserved attitudes from them. But this is not what I was used to when I needed them, say 8 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyprestige Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #14  Posted April 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, otto.f said: Well, maybe Leica has changed in the service department the last few years - I read more stories here about reserved attitudes from them. But this is not what I was used to when I needed them, say 8 years ago. Agree. Guess I will just live with these imperfections of the camera. Official service for out-of-warranty m cameras are too expensive now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 13, 2020 Share #15  Posted April 13, 2020 Leica have said before that the M lenses do not need weather sealing as they’re made to tight tolerances and the grease they use  acts as a barrier.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raphael Posted April 14, 2020 Share #16  Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 6:55 PM, jdlaing said: That’ll do it. Next time try not to get the tip of the blower in past the lens mount. Also avoid aiming it up into the top plate area. If we shouldn't use the blower, what else should we use to remove dust from the sensor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyprestige Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share #17 Â Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, raphael said: If we shouldn't use the blower, what else should we use to remove dust from the sensor? That's actually a valid point. I looked inside the camera body not noticing any visible gaps through the top plate. I believe the dusts could possibly get into the viewfinder throught the rear eyepiece or anywhere else since I was informed the body actually is not completely sealed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 14, 2020 Share #18 Â Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, raphael said: If we shouldn't use the blower, what else should we use to remove dust from the sensor? Sensor Swab, Visible dust Brush. Rocket blower judiciously so as not to blow dust particles up inside the top plate and viewfinder mechanism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raphael Posted April 14, 2020 Share #19  Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, jdlaing said: Sensor Swab, Visible dust Brush. Rocket blower judiciously so as not to blow dust particles up inside the top plate and viewfinder mechanism. Some time ago I watched a YouTube Video where a Leica service guy at Wetzlar recommended Ricoh‘s „Pentax Sensor Cleaning Stick“. It has an adhesive surface and will collect all the dust. However I’m afraid it will also leave some minor glue on the sensor.  Does anyone have experience with that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted April 14, 2020 Share #20  Posted April 14, 2020 surely if it was possible to blow dust from the sensor up into the VF then the camera would also have a light leak? (dust gets when in you change a battery, SD card and also when you have no hotshoe cover or EVF on... It's also entirely possible that dust has found it's way in during manufacture and assembly) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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