CosmoM3 Posted March 6, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 6, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I go over some of the key selling points of the M10 but I know there are people with a M240 that are on the fence. Overall I think it's an excellent camera, but it's hard to beat the value of the M240 today in 2020. https://cosmotographer.com/2020/03/05/leica-m10/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ERA23 Posted March 7, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 7, 2020 Hey Cosmo, it was a pleasure to read your review! It's great for anyone on the fence about to buy their first Leica. IMO the M10P offers even more value for money with the quiet shutter and the gorrila glass screen. Also there is no M10 safari 😂 ps: I don't know why eveyone keeps hating on the ISO dial i feel like it's the best"quirky design" part of the M10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 7, 2020 Share #3 Posted March 7, 2020 Yep - nice review. Just one thing - for me the removal of Video was a deal-breaker. it was a technological step backwards that made my M system (user since 1976 and I owned every M camera there was except M1 and M5) into my nostalgia system and turned my CL into the true legacy of Barnack's concept. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
analog-digital Posted March 7, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 7, 2020 vor 8 Stunden schrieb jaapv: .... for me the removal of Video was a deal-breaker...... If you want to film, don't buy a M-Leica! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 7, 2020 Share #5 Posted March 7, 2020 Exactly - so I did with the M10, but as that forced me into the L system, I sold my M240. Although it mainly filled my needs, I always saw it as a transition to a 21st century M system. When Leica decided to go retro on their M system, I was severely disappointed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted March 7, 2020 Share #6 Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, jaapv said: I always saw it as a transition to a 21st century M system. Christ! Just because the calendar says 2020 doesn't mean that every damn camera has to have video! 🤯 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted March 7, 2020 Share #7 Posted March 7, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 20 hours ago, CosmoM3 said: I go over some of the key selling points of the M10 but I know there are people with a M240 that are on the fence. Overall I think it's an excellent camera, but it's hard to beat the value of the M240 today in 2020. https://cosmotographer.com/2020/03/05/leica-m10/ Great read, thanks. Did you spend time on live view modes on either? While I absolutely prefer the pure rangefinder view where suitable/applicable, the wider angles are tough to get straight on the OVF alone, not to mention about framing... M240 suits me very well but I always found the workflow cumbersome when I've used the LV or EVF. Which leads to M10's perhaps improved capabilities. Compared against a (recent) mirrorless camera, could you say M10's view is laggy in any way, or its refresh rate bad? Many thanks for insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 7, 2020 Share #8 Posted March 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, mike3996 said: Christ! Just because the calendar says 2020 doesn't mean that every damn camera has to have video! 🤯 In the 21st century most people know how to operate a switch... to me it is an essential for a travel camera. I don't want to be like Barnack and Dr. Paul Wolff, being forced to carry a separate film camera, there is no need nowadays. They would have been highly amused by the anti-video crowd. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted March 7, 2020 Share #9 Posted March 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, jaapv said: In the 21st century most people know how to operate a switch... to me it is an essential for a travel camera. I don't want to be like Barnack and Dr. Paul Wolff, being forced to carry a separate film camera, there is no need nowadays. They would have been highly amused by the anti-video crowd. I find recent smartphones to be the better tools for non-professional (no heavy tripods or rigs, no RAW capture) videos than CL or M240. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 7, 2020 Share #10 Posted March 7, 2020 For photographs too, by now... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoM3 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted March 7, 2020 3 hours ago, mike3996 said: Great read, thanks. Did you spend time on live view modes on either? While I absolutely prefer the pure rangefinder view where suitable/applicable, the wider angles are tough to get straight on the OVF alone, not to mention about framing... M240 suits me very well but I always found the workflow cumbersome when I've used the LV or EVF. Which leads to M10's perhaps improved capabilities. Compared against a (recent) mirrorless camera, could you say M10's view is laggy in any way, or its refresh rate bad? Many thanks for insight. I didn't notice any lag and I'm going to say that it's smoother than the M240 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoM3 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted March 7, 2020 3 hours ago, jaapv said: In the 21st century most people know how to operate a switch... to me it is an essential for a travel camera. I don't want to be like Barnack and Dr. Paul Wolff, being forced to carry a separate film camera, there is no need nowadays. They would have been highly amused by the anti-video crowd. that sounds like a lot of gear to tug around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted March 7, 2020 Share #13 Posted March 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, CosmoM3 said: I didn't notice any lag and I'm going to say that it's smoother than the M240 Ah this is so bad for my GAS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted March 7, 2020 Share #14 Posted March 7, 2020 The M10 is a wonderful tool. It has so a logically set up. No comparison to the Q2 that I have for a few days by now. Just an example: In the M all the wheels are set up in a way that when you turn them to the left then you decrease light and turning to the right you increase light. And now the Q2: Aperture ring and Exposure time wheel work as in the M10. But the ISO wheel just turn the opposite way round. The incredibly consequent logic and the simplicity is what I love with the M10. Everything is just strait forward. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2020 Share #15 Posted March 7, 2020 A someone who's been a cinematographer for more than a few decades the M240 made a lousy motion picture platform. The OVF without any read-out or "real-time view" of whichever lens was mounted is useless for video, you have to rely on a poor quality EVF or a LCD that didn't articulate and the quality of the final image left much to be desired. Set-up with M lenses was/is also problematical too as it's almost impossible to rig them for follow focus or matte boxes. I tried to make it work but it just paled against the like of the GH4 that came in at less than half the cost of the M but with many times the M's capability for video. I for one am very happy that Leica dropped that when the M10 came along. It's a still photographer's camera with no video compromises, and that for me is as it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted March 8, 2020 Share #16 Posted March 8, 2020 20 hours ago, jaapv said: For photographs too, by now... Not for me. Using smartphones for photography feels cumbersome to me. If space and weight is an issue, I prefer Ricoh GR III to smartphone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 8, 2020 Share #17 Posted March 8, 2020 Indeed, nor for Video for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted March 8, 2020 Share #18 Posted March 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, jaapv said: Indeed, nor for Video for me. Interesting that you prefer smartphones for still photography and still camera for video. I am the other way around. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 8, 2020 Share #19 Posted March 8, 2020 I don't prefer smartphones for either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunston Posted March 9, 2020 Share #20 Posted March 9, 2020 time to get M10-P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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