Jay B Posted February 26, 2020 Share #1 Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, I am planning on completing my SL Summicron kit with the 28 & 21, but neither of those looks to be available by April. I need something to cover that range during an upcoming trip. I like the idea of the Panasonic 16-35, but I am a days travel away from any dealer that would have one available to shoot samples with. My main question is what color differences are there between the Panasonic and Leica SL lenses when viewing images? Close enough for a reasonable match? Can you tell the difference between the lenses color rendition when looking on the monitor during post? Thanks in advance, Edited February 26, 2020 by Jay B Clairity Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted February 26, 2020 Share #2 Posted February 26, 2020 All black. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay B Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted February 26, 2020 Funny guy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted February 27, 2020 Share #4 Posted February 27, 2020 I would rather use the SL 16-35, or simply rent it if it is too expensive to buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBart Posted February 27, 2020 Share #5 Posted February 27, 2020 I'd suggest the Leica SL 16-35mm. I use this lens a lot for interior design photography and it's the best wide I ever used. Even up against the primes. It depends on what you photograph though, I don't need the wider aperture for what I do. Optically this lens is wonderful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay B Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, caissa said: I would rather use the SL 16-35, or simply rent it if it is too expensive to buy. Expense is not a factor. Weight, size, not wanting to keep a zoom; all that rules the SL 16-35 out for me. Anybody have an answer to the color rendition question? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted February 27, 2020 Share #7 Posted February 27, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have done side by side comparison between the Pana 24-105 vs the Leica SL lenses, and found a slight color difference if you look at same subject shot with both lenses. However I did mix images from Pana 24-105/70-200/SL1635 and SL50/75mm during vacation trip and I dont think I could tell you which image was shot with which brand lens without looking in exif. I am however extremly happy with the 16-35 Leica. So saturated and clear images. Also if I look at comparison images between 50 Pana and 50 Leica SL I find the Leica images to have a little more 3-d look. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 28, 2020 Share #8 Posted February 28, 2020 I think with modern lenses in this sort of price and quality bracket the colour rendition will be almost identical...... or at least the difference too small to notice. There may be differences in contrast and hence perceived saturation ..... but again OOC JPG and default processed RAW should be very similar. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted February 28, 2020 Share #9 Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 5:59 AM, tom0511 said: I have done side by side comparison between the Pana 24-105 vs the Leica SL lenses, and found a slight color difference if you look at same subject shot with both lenses. However I did mix images from Pana 24-105/70-200/SL1635 and SL50/75mm during vacation trip and I dont think I could tell you which image was shot with which brand lens without looking in exif. I'd concur. I'll put it this way, I own the SL-35mm, I own the Pano. The Lumix, at least my copy, is a very, very good lens and outside of narrow DoF scenarios it can all too often be confused with the output from the prime. There is a level of subtlety that it occasionally lacks in direct comparison, it is a bitingly sharp across the frame, but to be honest at normal viewing levels after a few tweaks in post, I have generally have to go back to look at the exif to know which was which. I too await the next round of wide Summicrons, but I don't think they will ever fully displace the Lumix. Its portability, performance and added versatility given its width beyond 21mm make it a keeper, AFAIC. I'd wager the SVE is a tick or three more satisfying, but the tradeoff is cost and weight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay B Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted February 29, 2020 Thank you gentlemen! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Brigade Posted February 29, 2020 Share #11 Posted February 29, 2020 This is a very good question and if the answer is that the Panasonic lenses render color equally to the Leica L lenses, that will be very convenient, but perhaps not likely? In the case of Leica M rangefinder lenses verses Japanese made Zeiss primes on an M10, Zeiss will be obviously more contrasty and saturated; shadows go black. However, the beauty of Leica M glass has to do with the presence of micro-contrast and subtle gradations in color and contrast. With Leica M glass, you see any the subtle hues that the Zeiss won't show as well. SO in the case of Leica verses Panasonic L lenses and color, I wonder what the true comparison will show? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted March 1, 2020 Share #12 Posted March 1, 2020 I would gues it depends. Even different Leica M 50mm lenses draw very different. The 50/1.4asph warmer color than the 50 M APO for example. I think (I own 2 Zeiss M lens) that overall Zeiss M lenses render a little cooler overall. I feel the Leica SL lenses are very consistent. (I have not used the 90 APO but all others). So if you want Leica color/3d look, micro contrast and most consistent image look this is probably the safest (and most expensive) way. But sometimes I find the 90-280 too big and the Pana 70-200/4.0 helps, or I want a lighter zoom during vacation so I dont hesistate to use the 24-105, and I also consider to add a 135 mm Sigma lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmiq Posted June 29, 2022 Share #13 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) I tested side by side the Leica SL and Pana 16-35 with a SL2. I sent back the Leica. The Pana was even better. I would love to keep the Leica but in the corners (3 of 4) the Pana was sharper. The rest of the image the quality and color was the same! Edited June 29, 2022 by cosmiq 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn30 Posted June 29, 2022 Share #14 Posted June 29, 2022 With my limited experience, I'd say they're not that close without editing. My Leica lens's are APO and the only Panasonic lens I have is the 70-300 and you can tell right away. Not that the Panasonic is bad... just different. The 70-300 is uber sharp. I'd say the Sigma's I have are closer color wise, but after shooting all 3 brands, for a while now, I can see differences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malabito Posted June 29, 2022 Share #15 Posted June 29, 2022 i have the leica sl 35mm apo and the pana 24mm f1.8, used both on a sl2s. And yes the 35mm is sharper, and all that, but when mixing images is very hard to tell which one is from which lens... These posts have images shot with both lenses...and unless you look at the exif or look very closely pretty sure you wont notice the difference. Siret, Romania – Ukraine border, (March 2022) – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) Pastele Cailor 2022 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) StopWar – Bucharest 26th of February 2022 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) I have other links with only the pana... Recent Images – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) And this is m10 + sl2s with the pana... New Year’s Traditions – Tudora 2021 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQ Posted June 29, 2022 Share #16 Posted June 29, 2022 Your images are compelling and a beautiful insight to the human condition regardless of the lens you used. So very, very sad. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeleifa Posted June 30, 2022 Share #17 Posted June 30, 2022 13 hours ago, Malabito said: i have the leica sl 35mm apo and the pana 24mm f1.8, used both on a sl2s. And yes the 35mm is sharper, and all that, but when mixing images is very hard to tell which one is from which lens... These posts have images shot with both lenses...and unless you look at the exif or look very closely pretty sure you wont notice the difference. Siret, Romania – Ukraine border, (March 2022) – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) Pastele Cailor 2022 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) StopWar – Bucharest 26th of February 2022 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) I have other links with only the pana... Recent Images – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) And this is m10 + sl2s with the pana... New Year’s Traditions – Tudora 2021 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) Beautiful photos, thanks for sharing. How does Pana 24mm f1.8 stacks up against Sigmas counterparts; 24mm DG DN f2.0 and/or f3.5? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredol Posted June 30, 2022 Share #18 Posted June 30, 2022 Am 29.6.2022 um 22:25 schrieb Malabito: StopWar – Bucharest 26th of February 2022 – AI's Photography Blog (wordpress.com) thanks for sharing the pictures. Great work. Just out of curiosity: the third picture is with the SL 35 mm, is it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted July 1, 2022 Share #19 Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) Just go buy it, you won't regret it. After buying my copy, I sold my Trip-Elmar, because the Pans 16-35mm was much better. I have both the SL and the Pans 16-35's, and I reach for the Pana when I want a lighter weight kit. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 1, 2022 by Planetwide 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306870-panasonic-vs-leica-lens-color-rendition/?do=findComment&comment=4462831'>More sharing options...
Malabito Posted July 2, 2022 Share #20 Posted July 2, 2022 On 7/1/2022 at 12:24 AM, dredol said: thanks for sharing the pictures. Great work. Just out of curiosity: the third picture is with the SL 35 mm, is it? thanks! yes that was taken with the apo all pictures have the exif if you have one of those browser extensions, you can see the exif I am using edge with an extension called Exif Viewer Classic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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