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My experience is that once being used to having the possibility of working with apertures from 1.4 to 2.0 (which really very often makes a decisive difference to me), it just feels unacceptable being restricted to apertures slower than 2.8 for many occasions.

If there is a zoom lens with comparable performances (comparable to the performances of available prime lenses that I have experienced) from corner to corner of an image at apertures of at least 2.0, I will probably be among the first to buy it.

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I had the 24-90mm, 50mm 1.4, and 90-280mm.  I do a lot of street and travel photography.  Time and time again, the 24-90mm was my go to lens.  I carried the 90-280mm throughout Vietnam and used it one day.  I sold it after that trip realizing it would spend most of its life in the cabinet.  I also have an M converter and used my manual Ms with the focus aids.  Works great and really reduces the camera size and weight.  

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On 12/18/2019 at 6:15 AM, Tailwagger said:

You don't mention what system you are coming from and what focal lengths you've typically relied on in the past. The 'cron primes are quite special.  Sadly, at the moment there's noting wider than 35mm and even that is backordered.  The 24/28s are expected sometime next year.  Obviously building a system solely out of L-primes gets stupid expensive, stupid fast. The cheaper, more flexible, more portable alternative is the 24-90mm. And of course having been around for a while, they are easily found at a significant discount to new. As yet I've resisted buying one, as having come from the M, I prefer shooting with primes, for a number of reasons and 24-90 is right in my prime zone.

If your first lens will be your last, buy the zoom. If not, as is my case, then I suggest you consider creating roadmap for how your system will wind up. Here's the key thing to consider.  You have 47MPx to play with.  For most folks that means an excess of riches. You no longer need to think in terms of optical zooming as every prime you own is essentially a zoom, assuming you can live with 24-36MPx as the final result. Primes are smaller, lighter, faster in several dimensions and optically superior (if only slightly and of course at pre-crop resolution). 

My plan is to add the 35 and 21 crons to the 75 cron I currently own. While I'm waiting, I opted to pre-order the Pano 16-35 f4 which will in the end cover the ultra wide end, and I'm currently debating on whether to pickup the Sigma 135 or wait for the Pano 70-200 2.8, coupled with the Pano extender.  YMMV, best of luck. 

  

 

I am coming from a fuji xt20 . I had a 18-55mm zoom lense on it when i was in iceland and it honestly took pretty damn good photos of lamdscapes . Mainly shot everything at 18mm at f.8 200 iso and they turned out great. I alos have the 23mm prime lense wich they say is a 35mm equivalent from fuji and took that ome to seattle wich workes out good on the street but i found myseld having to back up to get some shots in close quarters.  Thats my main focal length experiencea . Havent shot any other lenses really . So i figured with landscapes and street photography 24 - 90 would work really good 

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1 hour ago, Calebg said:

I am coming from a fuji xt20 . I had a 18-55mm zoom lense on it when i was in iceland and it honestly took pretty damn good photos of lamdscapes . Mainly shot everything at 18mm at f.8 200 iso and they turned out great. I alos have the 23mm prime lense wich they say is a 35mm equivalent from fuji and took that ome to seattle wich workes out good on the street but i found myseld having to back up to get some shots in close quarters.  Thats my main focal length experiencea . Havent shot any other lenses really . So i figured with landscapes and street photography 24 - 90 would work really good 

From the sound of it then, were I you, I'd head to a dealer checkout out how the 24-90mm/SL2 feels in hand.  Assuming that the combo works from a carry around for landscape perspective,  thats the way I would to go.  If you find yourself thinking the combo is too cumbersome for street use, I'd suggest taking a look at  a Sigma 35 1.4 or 45, relatively short money... hundreds, not thousands.   Eventually you could be replace it with the 'cron 35mm or compliment it with either the upcoming 28mm or 50mm. 

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Ok sounds good and i agree. Id definitely go to a dealet if i had one semi close haha living in Midland tx theres not one . Maybe dallas has one ill look into that . Definitely think a sigma would be a good option especially considering cost . Thank u very much for the response and help 

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3 hours ago, ajmarton1 said:

I had the 24-90mm, 50mm 1.4, and 90-280mm.  I do a lot of street and travel photography.  Time and time again, the 24-90mm was my go to lens.  I carried the 90-280mm throughout Vietnam and used it one day.  I sold it after that trip realizing it would spend most of its life in the cabinet.  I also have an M converter and used my manual Ms with the focus aids.  Works great and really reduces the camera size and weight.  

Thank u for the reply.  I appreciate your imput. Traveling through Vietnam sounds amazing . Did you have any issues with the weight of  the 24-90 on the camera . Some people have mentioned that was an issue them but to me i dont see it being one. To me the 24-90 would have to be so versatile. Wether your shooting landscapes,street,portraits,wedding's or taking pics of your family.  To me its a go to lense . 

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I thought I’d be content to start with the SL 75, and then add the 24-90 later.  But US price increases moved me to get both now.  And, for good measure, I just added a mint used 90-280 (with remaining warranty) for $5k... on Jan 1, a new one will cost $7k here.  Never thought politics would influence (or at least expedite) my camera gear purchase decisions.  :)

I did, however, demo all of it before committing.  

Jeff

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vor 23 Stunden schrieb Artin:

Honestly a good performer on 24 mp. Body but on 47 it really shows it’s limit, enough distortion at 24.  pin caution at 105. Soft outside of the center 9 mm  wide open marginally gets better at f4. ... at f 5.6. Macro contrast is good but does not resolve the Micro ... however to my surprise I found the sigma 14-24.  Very good performer 

I find the 24-105 delivers quite good results on the S1r, IMO the range, and its smaller size and weight make it a really interesting alternative to the 24-90.

Here is one at 24mm on the s1r.

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10 hours ago, ajmarton1 said:

I had the 24-90mm, 50mm 1.4, and 90-280mm.  I do a lot of street and travel photography.  Time and time again, the 24-90mm was my go to lens.  I carried the 90-280mm throughout Vietnam and used it one day.  I sold it after that trip realizing it would spend most of its life in the cabinet.  I also have an M converter and used my manual Ms with the focus aids.  Works great and really reduces the camera size and weight.  

I did the same thing, sold the 24-90 and 90-280. I did get the 16-35 since it’s size seems manageable and will use m lenses and the f2 75  crown 

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On 12/18/2019 at 7:50 AM, SJH said:

Hi and congratulations, mine arrives tomorrow to join my Q2 and M10P. I’ve also just posted a thread on this combination compared with the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 which I have on order. You might like to consider it as an option as early reviews are indicating that it exceeds performance of the 24-70 2.8 GM Sony for example. If you took that route you could buy the Sigma zoom, 45mm 2.8, 12-24 and say the Sigma 85mm 1.4 L mount for less than just the Leica lens. Other options could be to  add in the excellent Voigtlander 50mm 1.2 and M to L mount converter. All that lot comes to the same price. It does make you think :)

Personally my decision is really around buying the Leica 24-90 to join my 3 M lenses to use on the SL2 or buying the Sigma 24-70 with say some Sigma primes (45, 50 or 85) or just the 50mm SL APO. The Leica is a wonderful lens and it goes to 90 but I just have this hunch that the Sigma is going to be on a par or at say 97% and that makes it rather compelling if I add in a Sigma or SL prime. 

My SL2 just arrived but I crumbled on the Sigma 24-70 and bought the Leica 24-90 arriving tomorrow, however, I did add the Sigma 45mm 2.8 and I have to say what a great little lens so far, very portable and feels just right on the SL2, aperture ring as well and not bad quality either. 

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I am getting my SL2 shortly. I kick myself for selling most of my Prime M lens.leaving behind quite a few R lens. 
Anyone who has tried both M and R lens on the SL2? Any comments on the image quality? Which series lens give you a better resolution, the M lens or the R lens? What  about the colours??  I like to hear from anyone who has tried both types of lens n the SL2 cameras. Cheers!

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On 12/20/2019 at 9:08 AM, SJH said:

My SL2 just arrived but I crumbled on the Sigma 24-70 and bought the Leica 24-90 arriving tomorrow, however, I did add the Sigma 45mm 2.8 and I have to say what a great little lens so far, very portable and feels just right on the SL2, aperture ring as well and not bad quality either. 

Let me know how you like the leica 24-90 and thr sl2 . Any feedback would be greatly appreciated 

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I have the 24-90 and have used it with the SL, S1R and now have the SL2 but haven’t used it with the SL2 yet. That being said it is the most used lens I have particularly when traveling. I don’t find it too heavy to carry and with the IBIS on the S1R was tack sharp. I have no reason to believe the same will apply to this lens with the SL2.

It’s the best zoom I have ever used and I’ve had lots of them including the other 2 Leica S zooms. But that depends on what you want to use it for. 

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