SL2 and 24-90 zoom noise

[hoppyman]

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How unusual. I only just got my SL2 and am exploring settings and controls before any shooting.

I have just noticed that my 24-90 makes an odd quiet operating noise when the zoom ring is operated and the camera is on. Not a focus noise and the odd noise is not there when the camera is turned off. I don’t recall ever hearing anything on the SL either where I used that one lens exclusively for the last years.

Edited November 29, 2019 by hoppyman
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[digitalfx]

Are you in AFc mode?

is “Pre-Focus” turned on?

 

try turning both off and see if it goes away

[hoppyman]

Thanks for the suggestions to try. Certainly the camera has more complex functions than the SL. I am in manual focus with neither shutter release nor joystick actuated.  The only control being operated is the zoom ring. I turned off pre-focus and touch AF and image stabilisation and the operating noise still persists the same. It is not mechanical in the lens in that it does not happen when the camera is powered off. I don’t know what I am missing currently.

Any other suggestions or if anyone can duplicate this or not, a reply would be very welcome.

Perhaps shall send the info through the Forum Leica liasion person to Wetzlar for comment. 

[JeffWright]

39 minutes ago, hoppyman said:

Thanks for the suggestions to try. Certainly the camera has more complex functions than the SL. I am in manual focus with neither shutter release nor joystick actuated.  The only control being operated is the zoom ring. I turned off pre-focus and touch AF and image stabilisation and the operating noise still persists the same. It is not mechanical in the lens in that it does not happen when the camera is powered off. I don’t know what I am missing currently.

Any other suggestions or if anyone can duplicate this or not, a reply would be very welcome.

Perhaps shall send the info through the Forum Leica liasion person to Wetzlar for comment. 

Is it a quiet, irregular clicking noise? I get that behavior on several of my SL lenses with the Panasonic S1R; they did not occur on my SL Typ 601

[wjdrijfhout]

I have the same. Both on SL and SL2. It's a bit of a squeaky noise. Both AFs and MF, both OIS on and off. Only when camera off, zooming is completely silent. So must be something electronic inside.

[digitalfx]

weird...mine is silent in MF and pre-focus off.

I had a strange noise, but once I turned off PRE-FOCUS it went away

[wjdrijfhout]

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Just tried pre-focus off, but same noise. What does pre-focus do?

[digitalfx]

If you are indeed in MF, there is no reason the lens should be making noise. Are you sure your focus setting in the menu is set to M?

NOTE: By default the camera is set to iAF...if you didn't turn this off, then your lens is in AF mode.

 

Pre Focus does exactly what the name implies...it pre-focuses the lens. In other words, its always focusing even before you half press the shutter.

[hoppyman]

A quiet rapid frequency clicking. And yes confirming I am in MF. This is present in iAF as well. The only area I can think of is if the camera is using a setting from a profile. I have not set any..Repeating the check with each option I can think of still does the same. Something in the communication between my copy of that lens and the body is causing this..  I haven’t worked out what obviously. I will reset the camera and start again setting one thing at a time., then check.. If it’s not a fault, that will be fine. My concern of course is any damage to either.

No change when camera reset  and each setting redone.

Thinking laterally, there is no noise except for AF operation with the Summicron SL 35.

With the Vario Elmar 18-56 the noise is not reproducible with zoom ring either.

I guess as more cameras get into the market place, more may become known.

Edited November 30, 2019 by hoppyman
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[Chaemono]

vor 18 Minuten schrieb hoppyman:

A quiet rapid frequency clicking. And yes confirming I am in MF. This is present in iAF as well. The only area I can think of is if the camera is using a setting from a profile. I have not set any..Repeating the check with each option I can think of still does the same. Something in the communication between my copy of that lens and the body is causing this..  I haven’t worked out what obviously. I will reset the camera and start again setting one thing at a time., then check.. If it’s not a fault, that will be fine. My concern of course is any damage to either.

I guess as more cameras get into the market place, more may become known.

Just checked.  I'm hearing the same noise, in MF and with Pre-Focus off.

[wjdrijfhout]

Confirm it does it in iAF, AFs and MF, none of this makes a difference. Please note, this is not SL2 related. My SL does the same. 

[hoppyman]

Just another clarification. I can identify the tiny movements and just detectable noise from prefocus and normal focus. This is not that.  Neither is it an IBIS function. It’s in the  lens and iit sounds like a slipping clutch type rapid sequence of clicks when the zoom ring is moved and no focus actuation happening.   My lens only does it when the SL 2 is on

[Chaemono]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb hoppyman:

Just another clarification. I can identify the tiny movements and just detectable noise from prefocus and normal focus. This is not that.  Neither is it an IBIS function. It’s in the  lens and iit sounds like a slipping clutch type rapid sequence of clicks when the zoom ring is moved and no focus actuation happening.   My lens only does it when the SL 2 is on

Exactly the same noise here.  With the SL2 off, the noise isn’t there when the focus ring is turned. 

[Bohns]

I observe the same as Chaemano. No such noise on the SL, only on SL2, and only when the body is on, with or without stabilization. No such noise with the 90-280.

When I mounted the 24-90 for the first time on SL2, the body started by a lens firmware update, which went successfully. I have this noise since then, as soon as the SL2 body is on, in MF, AF-s, AF-c, iAF. The focus is OK, and as fast as I would expect. It seems normal.

I will anyway send a mail or call Leica France to check if it is a known and normal behavior with this lens, though.

 

[helged]

1 minute ago, Bohns said:

I will anyway send a mail or call Leica France to check if it is a known and normal behavior with this lens, though.

 

Thanks - and report back. Same situation for me (SL2+SL24-90).

[BlackDoc]

Confirming the same noise on SL-I AND SL-II. No noise with 16-35 

[hoppyman]

10 hours ago, Chaemono said:

Exactly the same noise here.  With the SL2 off, the noise isn’t there when the focus ring is turned. 

 Not the FOCUS ring here, the ZOOM ring on my 24-90. Occurs at every aperture too,

[Chaemono]

vor 12 Minuten schrieb hoppyman:

 Not the FOCUS ring here, the ZOOM ring on my 24-90. Occurs at every aperture too,

Yes, I meant to write the zoom ring.  I was tired, I guess. 

[JeffWright]

On 12/1/2019 at 2:41 PM, hoppyman said:

 Not the FOCUS ring here, the ZOOM ring on my 24-90. Occurs at every aperture too,

I have the same behavior on the 24-90. It was not present on the SL, is present on the S1R and my zippy new SL2. No longer have an SL to see if it is something that's appeared with age/use.

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[scloop]

I have the same behavior with my 24-90 and the SL2.  I do not hear this noise with any other L, SL or TL lens and I do not recall hearing the noise when on my SL. The noise does not occur when the lens is not mounted or the SL2 is off.