SL zooms adequate or new wide angle Summicrons?

[ymc226]

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With my M usage, my most used focal length was the 28 (both Summicron and Elmarit).  The 21 Super Elmar was also well used with amazing clarity. My pictures now are urban and beach landscapes, during daylight, with a preference of having everything in focus.  I have all 3 SL zoom lenses which are very sharp.  Other than smaller size/lesser weight and ability to change DOF with the faster Summicrons, any advantage of additional sharpness with the anticipated 21, 24 and 28 lenses scheduled for this year?

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[scott kirkpatrick]

Since we won't see the 28 until next year, perhaps in summer time, and the 21 and 24 until the year after, this is not an urgent problem.  And both the 16-35 zoom and the best primes can get everything sharp with a bit of care, from the grains of sand at your feet to the ships on the horizon.  The difference between shooting with a prime and shooting with the two zooms will be in the overall look of the picture.  You might want to compare shooting with the M 21/3.4 or borrow a 35 SL-Summicron to see if you prefer one over the other.

[caissa]

If I had the money, then I would be tempted to buy all lenses. But the SL16-35 is an excellent lens, and more flexible than a prime, so I will stick with this. (and I do not regret it). Some users are also very happy with the Panasonic S-Pro 16-35

If you have all lenses, it is more difficult to select the right ones before you leave the house.   

Edited November 15, 2019 by caissa

[johnbuckley]

Probably the most practical way of thinking about it is how much you will need to shoot at f/2.0 vs. f/2.8. That and size are the advantages of the Summicrons.

 

Edited November 15, 2019 by johnbuckley
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[Guest]

25 minutes ago, caissa said:

Some users are also very happy with the Panasonic S-Pro 16-35

I am guessing you probably mean the 24-70 or the 24-105 as the 16-35 will only be released in January.  

[Jeff S]

On the SL (without IBIS), the OIS on the two longer zooms can provide a handholding advantage, despite larger size and weight.  On the SL2 (with IBIS), likely not.

Jeff

Edited November 16, 2019 by Jeff S

[Jeff S]

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29 minutes ago, SlowDriver said:

I am guessing you probably mean the 24-70 or the 24-105 as the 16-35 will only be released in January.  

Maybe he means user reviews, for instance...

Jeff

[IkarusJohn]

6 hours ago, ymc226 said:

With my M usage, my most used focal length was the 28 (both Summicron and Elmarit).  The 21 Super Elmar was also well used with amazing clarity. My pictures now are urban and beach landscapes, during daylight, with a preference of having everything in focus.  I have all 3 SL zoom lenses which are very sharp.  Other than smaller size/lesser weight and ability to change DOF with the faster Summicrons, any advantage of additional sharpness with the anticipated 21, 24 and 28 lenses scheduled for this year?

Interesting question.  I also have the three zooms, the 50 Summilux-SL and 75 Summicron-SL.  I’m currently planning a trip, and will take the 16-35mm and the 75 Summicron.  This provides a good spread, and is relatively compact.  The 75 Summicron is a fantastic lens.  When the 28 Summicron is released, I will give it serious thought ...

[Stuart Richardson]

I recently bought the APO Summicron SL in the 50mm focal length, and I compared it to my friend's 24-90mm zoom. The zoom is very good, but it is not as good as the 50mm. I think the difference is large enough that it would be visible in critical conditions. The prime is significantly better, faster, lighter and smaller, while the zoom covers a wider range of focal lengths in the same lens. Same old story...in this vein I think it is reasonable to presume that the wide angle SL primes will have sharper results than the SL zooms, in more compact and also possibly faster packages. But my assumption would be that the difference would not be clearly noticeable unless you are printing quite large. Since distortion is largely corrected digitally these days, the wide angle zooms are potentially more comparable to the primes than they used to be.

Edited November 17, 2019 by Stuart Richardson

[Mr.Q]

As good as the 16-35 must be, I look forward to seeing how the 21 Super-Summicron performs.

[ymc226]

On 11/15/2019 at 6:36 PM, caissa said:

If I had the money, then I would be tempted to buy all lenses. But the SL16-35 is an excellent lens, and more flexible than a prime, so I will stick with this. (and I do not regret it). Some users are also very happy with the Panasonic S-Pro 16-35

If you have all lenses, it is more difficult to select the right ones before you leave the house.   

Your last sentence makes sense. I have the majority of the modern ASPH M lenses and just go back to a few that are used regularly. As the SL will be my only other system, I don’t want to having a similar situation.