tomy5000ar Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1 Posted November 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, what happens to my M9 1 year ago that I did not use it and now I get this? help Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/303309-m9-help/?do=findComment&comment=3851111'>More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted November 9, 2019 Share #2 Posted November 9, 2019 Sorry to tell you that you must send your M9 for repair. - sensor is corroded, obvious at the first image - maybe false contacts (or other thing) for writing on SD card Leica would take care of these (at a cost or not depending on them ! ) or offer an "upgrade program for another recent M " 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted November 9, 2019 Share #3 Posted November 9, 2019 vor 6 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: - maybe false contacts (or other thing) for writing on SD card Or a faulty SD Card reader, once happened to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted November 9, 2019 Share #4 Posted November 9, 2019 For what it's worth, I'm very sorry to see that. It'll happen to mine and everyone else's at some point, and although I knew this was "all part of the fun" when I decided to get into the Leica system, it'll be gut wrenching when it does happen. And I won't be getting an alternative recent CCD-less M either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted November 10, 2019 Share #5 Posted November 10, 2019 Sensor is corroded for sure. The rest of failure is unknown, but it might be included in the sensor swap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 10, 2019 Share #6 Posted November 10, 2019 14 hours ago, a.noctilux said: Sorry to tell you that you must send your M9 for repair. - sensor is corroded, obvious at the first image - maybe false contacts (or other thing) for writing on SD card Leica would take care of these (at a cost or not depending on them ! ) or offer an "upgrade program for another recent M " That is not corrosion, that is electronic failure. The first image is very similar to the "beam me up, Scotty" banding that plagued the first 1500 M8s (missing mass contact), and another M8 sensor I had showed exactly the same pink panels as image 2. That was caused by a motherboard failure. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted November 10, 2019 Share #7 Posted November 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, the two files don't look anything like sensor corrosion. ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 10, 2019 Share #8 Posted November 10, 2019 an electronic device unused for 1 year..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 10, 2019 Share #9 Posted November 10, 2019 It shouldn't happen, but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 10, 2019 Share #10 Posted November 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Ray Vonn said: For what it's worth, I'm very sorry to see that. It'll happen to mine and everyone else's at some point, and although I knew this was "all part of the fun" when I decided to get into the Leica system, it'll be gut wrenching when it does happen. And I won't be getting an alternative recent CCD-less M either. Why should this happen to you, or anybody for that matter? Electronic failure of the sensor (or rather the motherboard or ADCs, the sensor itself is hardly ever the culprit) is quite uncommon. The Digilux2 used to break down this way quite frequently. Nearly all sensors needed to be replaced -for free for over a decade, courtesy of Sony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a5m Posted November 10, 2019 Share #11 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaapv said: That is not corrosion, that is electronic failure. The first image is very similar to the "beam me up, Scotty" banding that plagued the first 1500 M8s (missing mass contact), and another M8 sensor I had showed exactly the same pink panels as image 2. That was caused by a motherboard failure. 1 hour ago, david strachan said: Yes, the two files don't look anything like sensor corrosion. ... Corrosion spots with the signature 'halos' can be seen in the first image. 1 hour ago, jaapv said: Why should this happen to you, or anybody for that matter? Electronic failure of the sensor (or rather the motherboard or ADCs, the sensor itself is hardly ever the culprit) is quite uncommon. The Digilux2 used to break down this way quite frequently. Nearly all sensors needed to be replaced -for free for over a decade, courtesy of Sony. I assume they were referring to corrosion, which is inevitable on all original M9/P/E/Monochrom sensors. Edited November 10, 2019 by a5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted November 10, 2019 Share #12 Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, jaapv said: Why should this happen to you, or anybody for that matter? Electronic failure of the sensor (or rather the motherboard or ADCs, the sensor itself is hardly ever the culprit) is quite uncommon. The Digilux2 used to break down this way quite frequently. Nearly all sensors needed to be replaced -for free for over a decade, courtesy of Sony. To be fair, I did think I had the beginnings of sensor corrosion until a good old sensor blower solved that issue! I have also had the apparently not unfamiliar issue of battery drain/ camera not starting after a full battery charge which was finally solved by changing to an older SD card. Just waiting for the next thing to crop up, but will take the glass half full approach from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted November 10, 2019 Share #13 Posted November 10, 2019 Agree that I see nearly a dozen developed or incipient "fried-egg" corrosion spots in tomy's first image. Also agree that the "waterfalls" of black or pink are a separate problem of electronic nature. Could be the sensor chip, could be the downstream chips that process the sensor data, could be a clocking issue (the M8 CCD produced "waterfall" errors with the first firmware due to startup errors - the camera could be fired before the image processing was fully booted.) The fact that the pink "waterfall" is split down the middle of the sensor probably also means something to someone (the sensor is "read" as two halves via two outputs to speed output time). An SD card error is possible - easy to test by using a different card. Otherwise, either problem is going to require a trip to Leica to solve, regardless of how we diagnose it here. A sensor replacement may solve both problems - or it may require a sensor replacement plus replacing some other processing chip(s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomy5000ar Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted November 13, 2019 I have the possibility of sending the camera to Germany for repair and I wrote both to the address of Hamburg and Berlin to them https://www.meister-camera.com/ but they do not answer me !!! What do you suggest Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted November 14, 2019 Share #15 Posted November 14, 2019 It doesn’t look like you were contacting Leica service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 14, 2019 Share #16 Posted November 14, 2019 https://de.leica-camera.com/Service-Support/Reparatur-Wartung Meister Camera is a dealer, not Leica Customer Service. They are in Wetzlar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercan Posted November 17, 2019 Share #17 Posted November 17, 2019 It happened to me during the last summer. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I sent the camera to Germany, and got two offer. I have upgraded to SL. BTW Leica customer support team is working perfect. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I sent the camera to Germany, and got two offer. I have upgraded to SL. BTW Leica customer support team is working perfect. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/303309-m9-help/?do=findComment&comment=3856267'>More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 17, 2019 Share #18 Posted November 17, 2019 Strange that they offered you the same deal as for corroded sensors, because that is not corrosion! Good for you though 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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