sean_reid Posted August 8, 2007 Share #301 Posted August 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I, for one, am not interested in any of these lenses in the least. IMO, the only ones that will buy them are the Stuart R., Alex S., and Tom A's of the world who MUST have one of each. As another perspective, I think the new lenses will sell quite well. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted August 8, 2007 Share #302 Posted August 8, 2007 So to summarise general opinions...... "How dare Leica introduce these lenses! Who asked for them?! What a liberty. Clearly they are plastic lenses made by panasonic and will only work on the M8, they will only be on sale for a short time to boost M8 sales and then what?" or "Fantastic, more lenses to choose from, and relatively affordable, can't wait to see how they perform" :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 8, 2007 Share #303 Posted August 8, 2007 If Leica have the engineering and manufacturing capacity, and expect to have a 1.33x sensor for long enough I am sure that they could make money from a digital only lens series, should they so choose. There may be some long term method behind this. I still think it would be a bad move for Leica to make digital only lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted August 8, 2007 Share #304 Posted August 8, 2007 Erwin Puts put up a new writing on the Summarits and it sounds like there's an industrial revolution inside Leica, apparently, these new lenses were only made possible due to a new method in manufacturing and assembly. (40) Leica Summarit-M lenses | Photography and image capture: the Leica technique and philosophy by Erwin Puts This may partly explain why the bump in price of the W8 and other existing lenses, perhaps Leica is phasing out their old technology and the new design, manufacturing approach will yield a complete refreshed lineup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Wong Posted August 8, 2007 Share #305 Posted August 8, 2007 This is all well and good for you M users, but I'd like something similar for the R's, maybe a vario-summarit 28-90 or 35-90 (the latter would suit me better as I don't have any lenses in that range except for a 50), with a constant aperture, for around $1800-2500 of course, this won't happen, but I can dream -Steven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted August 8, 2007 Share #306 Posted August 8, 2007 But, Nikon have basically abandoned film for several years now, too, so it makes sense for them. Last time I looked, Leica still made film Ms (although you wouldn't think so if you read this forum ) Andy, My phrasing actually should have read “DOES it make sense for Leica” at this point…of course the M8 users would think this as logical…but seeing that they made the WATE to satisfy the need for wide (M8) and ultra wide (M), I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a prime that was wider than the current 21. That would make two camps of M users happy…even those of us that still buy film M’s (dinosaurs we may be.) As far as Nikon goes, I’ve used the 12-24 quite a bit – and it’s “okay” for a $900 lens. I suspect the 17-55 2.8 DX we’re about to get is going to change my mind about the DX line though. For the truly good stuff, you still need to look at the lenses made for film bodies. My general perception of the DX line Nikkors is that they are nicely placed in the lineup for mid-level prosumer DSLR’s and the amateur market. Most buyers of the D40 and D80 cameras would balk at the $1200 price tag of a 17-55 2.8 DX, and it’s not an easy job convincing them of the quality differences $1000 extra gets you. But Leica is a very different story…I would say that almost any lens in their current M lineup is going to be a good performer, if not stellar in some cases. I imagine the new Summarits will live up to expectations, especially at the price point they’re at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinabalu Posted August 8, 2007 Share #307 Posted August 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello all, does anybody knows whether the new lense do also comes in silver? How about the latest 28mm. Is a silver version available? Regards K. _______________ Fotos: Lo. I. (Shanghai) - fotocommunity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted August 8, 2007 Share #308 Posted August 8, 2007 Now that I have had a few days to think about the introduction of the Summarit line, I think it is great for Leica. Personally, I am set, having replaced my older lenses over the past four years with the current line, and having selected each lens for a specific reason. The Summarits would be nice to own, but with Private School looming for two children, any new Leica purchases will have to be put off for a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted August 8, 2007 Share #309 Posted August 8, 2007 But, Nikon have basically abandoned film for several years now, too, so it makes sense for them. Last time I looked, Leica still made film Ms (although you wouldn't think so if you read this forum ) Canon has a line of 24x36 DSLR's but still makes cropped sensor lenses so the users of those camera's have the same range of choices as the full frame users. If Nikon winds up with a full frame DSLR at the top of it's range it will do the same. It's pretty much common practice now. If you produce 2 ranges of cameras that have different optical needs you produce optics to satisfy those needs. But then maybe Leica knows something I don't about future developments of the M sensor and about the practical gains in terms of size and cost of a reduced image circle lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 8, 2007 Share #310 Posted August 8, 2007 It is surprising that Nikon either does not feel the need for a full frame DSLR or does not have the ability to produce one (unlikely). They have effectively ceded this business to Canon. If one of the new Sony Alpha DSLR models is full frame, this will be the only real alternative to Canon and is bound to pick up quite a bit of business, especially when allied to CZ glass. I think CZ may have made an error making their current mid range zoom VS lens small format, unless of course, they have a more expensive full frame version in the wings. CZ's mid range and wide zooms have traditionally been as good, if not better than anyone else's. Look at the photodo MTF figures for proof. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapfile Posted August 8, 2007 Share #311 Posted August 8, 2007 Kinabalu, I doubt you'll be seeing any new lenses in silver from Leica. They've already cut back on silver in their current lines. With the possible exception of their increased weight aiding in camera steadiness, the pics will look the same. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted August 9, 2007 Share #312 Posted August 9, 2007 A 21/2 at the size/price of the current 28 summicron and a 28/1.4 at the size/price of the current 35 Summilux (and without it's focus shift issues) would probably be the best selling lenses for the M8 unless of course reducing the image circle does not have as big an impact as I am assuming it has on cost and size. There is only one missing link between the 1.3 crop and full frame: a 24/1 nuctilux for the 1.3 crop this lens would be used even in the case that the M9 is full frame since you could always crop scuare or 2/3th's and it would be unique not that I can buy any more lenses though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericperlberg Posted August 9, 2007 Share #313 Posted August 9, 2007 As far as digital photography goes, I think that it makes more sense for companies to develop chips with less inherent noise at high ISOs (Canon is pushing that envelope) and to develop software whether in camera or post-processing which reduces noise with less effect on an image than today's noise reduction than it does to try to develop lenses with f1 or 1.4 apertures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted August 9, 2007 Share #314 Posted August 9, 2007 It is not the noice but the combination of WA and subject separation from background etc... (this would be as a 35/1,4 at ff and it would work even better in low light both because it is wider and has more light) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericperlberg Posted August 9, 2007 Share #315 Posted August 9, 2007 It is not the noice but the combination of WA and subject separation from background etc... (this would be as a 35/1,4 at ff and it would work even better in low light both because it is wider and has more light) I don't know what the market size is for a WA lens which is bought for subject background separation but I wonder if its large enough to support the development costs. I would have thought that the fast WA lens market would be based on taking photos in dark situations in which case significantly better chips trump compromised glass but I guess I could be wrong. Wish there was a way to really know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted August 9, 2007 Share #316 Posted August 9, 2007 focus plane is very important even with WA and specially in the digital age. Out of focus is as important for the composition that complements the entire picture and in a Wa is a big part of it. The demand of the lens would be as it was a 35/1.4 for film (24= 32 field of view in a 1.3 crop) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted August 9, 2007 Share #317 Posted August 9, 2007 Everything in the frame is subject, blurred or not. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted August 9, 2007 Share #318 Posted August 9, 2007 Everything in the frame is subject, blurred or not. Cheers, Sean I agree Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/30205-4-new-summarits/?do=findComment&comment=325003'>More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted August 9, 2007 Share #319 Posted August 9, 2007 As to the question of better high ISO performance or more fast lenses...I say "both please". Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted August 9, 2007 Share #320 Posted August 9, 2007 I've been looking for a Leica 35mm ASPH for sometime and missed out on auctions and for sales ads. I'm pretty confident that f2.5 will be bright enough for my uses, what do you think, is it worth waiting for a new 35mm Summarit instead? Any one have a clue when the Summarit will be available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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