weeowee Posted July 15, 2019 Share #1  Posted July 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has anyone tried this lens? How is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zeitz Posted July 15, 2019 Share #2 Â Posted July 15, 2019 Does anyone have an LTM version of this lens they would like to sell? Â I have been looking for one for years. Â Only 60 of them were made in LTM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted July 15, 2019 Share #3  Posted July 15, 2019 You might try this adapter for the M: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-S-rangefinder-lenses-to-Leica-M3-M8-M9-adapter-ring/133087140318?hash=item1efc9c99de:g:qXkAAOSwFAZTsJAb  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 15, 2019 Share #4  Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, weeowee said: Has anyone tried this lens? How is it? I very briefly had one a few years ago. Condition wasn't great, so I returned it. Strong character with very noticeable vignetting and unique color rendering. IIRC, the barreI also protruded quite a bit in the camera body, resulting in incorrect metering in some cases (at least on the M9). Edges weren't great either, but it may just have been that particular copy. I believe forum member JMF has one and uses it regularly - he may chime in and give you better feedback than I can. 1 hour ago, zeitz said: Does anyone have an LTM version of this lens they would like to sell?  I have been looking for one for years.  Only 60 of them were made in LTM. I believe the LTM numbers to be a bit higher than that, possibly a few hundred, but I don't think there's a production record for this version. In any case, it's not that hard to find. Since it's a collectors' item, price is a different issue altogether... I know a Leica dealer who has had one for sale for months - if you are interested, PM me and I'll send you his details. There are also a couple currently for sale on eBay. 56 minutes ago, UliWer said: You might try this adapter for the M: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-S-rangefinder-lenses-to-Leica-M3-M8-M9-adapter-ring/133087140318?hash=item1efc9c99de:g:qXkAAOSwFAZTsJAb  Don't. Unfortunately, Amedeo adapters don't play too well with most wides. They are great for 50mm and longer, though. Edited July 15, 2019 by Ecar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeowee Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share #5  Posted July 15, 2019 the one I was looking at already has an adaptor from leica but thanks🙂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted July 15, 2019 Share #6  Posted July 15, 2019 If it's in good shape and the price is reasonable, grab it for film use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 15, 2019 Share #7  Posted July 15, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) There's some confusion here. I would guess you are looking at an LTM (ie, screw) version of the lens, equipped with an LTM to M Leitz adapter. The above suggestion - which I do not recommend due to compatibility issues - was related to adapting a Nikon-S mount lens to an M camera through a Nikon-S to M adapter made by Amedeo Muscelli. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeowee Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share #8  Posted July 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Ecar said: There's some confusion here. I would guess you are looking at an LTM (ie, screw) version of the lens, equipped with an LTM to M Leitz adapter. The above suggestion - which I do not recommend due to compatibility issues - was related to adapting a Nikon-S mount lens to an M camera through a Nikon-S to M adapter made by Amedeo Muscelli. oh, I get it now. 🙂 thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted July 16, 2019 Share #9  Posted July 16, 2019 vor 12 Stunden schrieb Ecar: Don't. Unfortunately, Amedeo adapters don't play too well with most wides. They are great for 50mm and longer, though. They don't work with wide angle lenses which have a very large rear element, so the lens just does not fit to the adapter. Zeiss 21 or 35mm Biogon for example. The 4/25mm Nippon Kogaku's rear element is much smaller. Of course I do not know whether it fits, so one has to try, which may be difficult since the items are only on sale online.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 16, 2019 Share #10  Posted July 16, 2019 There's actually a whole thread on RFF regarding Amedeo adapter's compatibility: the Nikkor 25/4 is flagged as not compatible (will mount, but won't focus). It is true that the adapter and/or the lens can sometimes be slightly modified and made to work nicely together (I've had it done on a Nikkor 50/1.1, also deemed not compatible) but, assuming this can even be achieved with the 25/4, it wouldn't be a trivial undertaking. In any event, there are also a lot of Nikon collectors out there and I'm not sure the 25/4 in Nikon RF mount is easier to find or cheaper than the LTM version... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeowee Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share #11  Posted July 16, 2019 the one I was being offered is an ltm version 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted July 16, 2019 Share #12  Posted July 16, 2019 Look for a Canon 25mm, F 3.5 lens.  They were all made in LTM.  I have used one in the past....It was fine for a lens of that vintage (1956-60).  Canon made them up to 1975.  I doubt if  there is a significant I.Q. difference between the Nikkor and the Canon.  Th Canon will be cheaper to buy. Ciao,  Sully Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted July 16, 2019 Share #13  Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) I had one for a while but returned it a few days later. It works well on both film/digital leicas, but it’s generally soft and lacks resolution when compared to other lenses. I do prefer vintage lens btw (my favorite lenses are Summicron 8 elements & dual range), and I also really enjoy the Summicron collapsible and the Elmar 50mm f3.5, but I find that these lenses all perform really well even wide open, with a really sharp center and lots of character. The wider lenses of the 1950s are a different talk though, and unless you stop them down to f8/f11 they do lack sharpness and resolution. Also this lens is super expensive, for the price you can buy a super angulon 21mm f3.4, Voigtlander 21mm f3.5, Summaron 28mm f5.6, all better lenses in my opinion, This is my personal experience though, others may disagree. Edited July 16, 2019 by shirubadanieru Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted July 16, 2019 Share #14  Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Hi, I have 2 LTM samples, did not know they were so rare . Only missing the original hood if someone has a lead  , please let me know ! I is a great pancake and works fine on my digital and analog M bodies. I'll have to use it again to double check whether the meter gets fooled by the rear lens element as I don't remember correctly right now but I do remember one side of the frame getting a reddish tint on the M10,  easily cleaned in Lightroom . I agree  with the above comments about using it at f/8-11 to get most out of this lens  . I really like this lens, I have a mint sample and it delivers a much better res/iQ than the user 28 Canon 3,5 LTM I had some years ago. Keeping my second sample for spares. Shot with the digi CL : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Au Gaou by JM__, on Flickr with the Monochrom v1: Au Brusc by JM__, on Flickr Rue Montorgueil by JM__, on Flickr with the M10: vers la plage by JM__, on Flickr Le printemps by JM__, on Flickr Signs by JM__, on Flickr on film : Ping pong game, City of God, Brazil by JM__, on Flickr Best regards, JM. Edited July 16, 2019 by JMF Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Au Gaou by JM__, on Flickr with the Monochrom v1: Au Brusc by JM__, on Flickr Rue Montorgueil by JM__, on Flickr with the M10: vers la plage by JM__, on Flickr Le printemps by JM__, on Flickr Signs by JM__, on Flickr on film : Ping pong game, City of God, Brazil by JM__, on Flickr Best regards, JM. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299313-nippon-kogaku-25cm-f4-any-reviews/?do=findComment&comment=3779444'>More sharing options...
weeowee Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share #15  Posted July 29, 2019 Got the lens in LTM mount with an adapater to M mount and didn’t get along with the focal length. It’s a beautiful lens though but I’ve decided to sell it and get a different one instead or maybe save my money for film. Anyway, thanks to everyone who answered questions and joined the discussion🙂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 30, 2019 Share #16  Posted July 30, 2019 There are a several options if you want a "classic" rendering and are prepared to go to 28mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeowee Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share #17  Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ecar said: There are a several options if you want a "classic" rendering and are prepared to go to 28mm. I’ll think about that after I sell this one. I’m pretty satisfied with my 40mm for now:) Thanks! Edited July 30, 2019 by weeowee Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted December 11, 2022 Share #18 Â Posted December 11, 2022 Reviving this thread in case anyone has additional insight or opinion to add since 2019. Â All input appreciated. Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF Posted November 10, 2023 Share #19  Posted November 10, 2023 (edited)   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!      On 12/11/2022 at 5:51 PM, RayD28 said: Reviving this thread in case anyone has additional insight or opinion to add since 2019.  All input appreciated.  Here , today's update !! The 25mm f4 W-Nikkor in Nikon S mount converted to Leica M : https://www.instagram.com/p/CzeETpIIchj/ Cheers, Jean-Marc. Edited November 10, 2023 by JMF 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!      Here , today's update !! The 25mm f4 W-Nikkor in Nikon S mount converted to Leica M : https://www.instagram.com/p/CzeETpIIchj/ Cheers, Jean-Marc. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299313-nippon-kogaku-25cm-f4-any-reviews/?do=findComment&comment=4900959'>More sharing options...
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