SL bag

[didier]

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Dear all,

will the Peak Design Everyday Sling 5L be ok to fit a Leica SL + Lens (Lens : M 50, either summicron apo or Noctilux)

thanks for your sharing your experience 

 

Didier

[NicholasT]

The Peak Design Sling 5L can accommodate Leica SL + SL 24-90 (see attached photo). It should easily fit either M50 or Noctilux.

Hope this helps.

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[didier]

Thank you Nicholas !

Will it fit with the Lens attached to the body ?

Kind Regards

Didier

[ron777]

Oberwerth Munchen can accommodate the SL with the 24-90mm, or the 16-35mm or the 75mm attached. It's clearly more costly than the Peak Design but it's in a different league.

[NicholasT]

12 hours ago, didier said:

Thank you Nicholas !

Will it fit with the Lens attached to the body ?

Kind Regards

Didier

Hi Didier,

The camera with lens attached won't fit because the bag tappers at top and bottom so it can't properly accommodate the length of the camera (lens is no problem). 

The ideal use case for this bag with the SL is to use the bag for transport to and from shooting location or when camera is not in use and to rely on excellent shoulder strap or wrist strap the rest of the time. At least with this camera it won't be practical to use this bag constantly while actively shooting. The better choice in this later scenario is to use a bag such as the one that ron777 recommended but it will clearly be much larger (and considerably more expensive). 

The nice thing about the Peak Design bag if its not being used while shooting, is that its so small and light that you can have it draped over your back and forget its even there.

I find that getting comfortable using a smaller bag comes down to the effectiveness of the strap one uses while shooting. While Rock and Roll and other similar straps are wonderful to look at, I've found that almost any strap that has camera hanging from the lugs is not terribly practical (or safe for camera). For years I've settled on what I and many others have found to be an excellent solution and that's the Black Rapid strap. I take it one step further and combine it with Arcatech quick release for an extremely secure and convenient setup. Personally I don't like using the screw in attachment that comes with Black Rapid strap

In order to quickly attach the Black Rapid strap + Arcatech to the camera one needs to have a plate on the camera. Most traditional camera plates are unsightly, interfere with battery compartment or stick out in undesirable ways. Really Right Stuff makes an absolutely beautiful and very well engineered custom plate for the SL. I believe it enhances the look of the camera, is extremely practical in that camera is ready at all times for easy connection to either a tripod or the Black rapid strap while retaining very easy access to the battery compartment with no need to remove the plate. 

Below I've attached some photos so you can get a better idea of the strap, quick release and the RRS plate on the SL.

Nicholas

Black Rapid + Arcatech.jp2 Leica SL + Really Right Stuff Plate.jp2 Really Right Stuff on SL Bottom View.jp2

[gregor_24]

Have you seen this video?

Maybe an alternative for you (but not on the cheap side ;))

 

[NicholasT]

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1 hour ago, gregor_24 said:

Have you seen this video?

Maybe an alternative for you (but not on the cheap side ;))

 

Looks like an excellent and elegant option with lens fully mounted on camera.

At the risk of overdoing it with various options there is one more suggestion. The Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100 bag (photo #1 )

This bag is not custom made for the SL but you'd almost think that it was...I'm able to fit the Leica SL with 24-90 lens mounted, and using one divider on the back fit a very large M lens (75mm f F1.4) and using the other divider on top of the camera able to fully secure and protect the camera while leaving a nice soft platform to fit another quite large lens (Photo #2) Also inside the bag there is a secure strap that allows for interior contents to be tightened providing a real sense of security that everything is protect and not going anywhere.

Also worth mentioning that the Artisan & Artist has one of the absolute most comfortable and adjustable shoulder straps I've ever encountered on a camera bag. 

The Artisan & Artist bag is a little more compact in size than the Billingham SL and cost about 1/3 less.

The Artisan 7100 bag and Billingham SL are both handsome bags although I'd probably give the nod to the Billingham as being the more elegant looking of the two.

Photos attached 

With this post I think I've run out of suggested ways to store and carry the SL!

Cheers,

Nicholas

Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100.jp2 Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100 Open #1.jp2 Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100 Open #2.jp2

[MarkP]

I have the Peak Design 5L sling for when I go out with a small M system. By far the best small camera bag I've ever had for the M. Beautifully designed.

The PD 10L sling is great for the SL with SL 24-90 mounted, spare lens, filters and accessories. I put one of the dividers at an angle on the bottom of the bag with the hood underneath to support the SL. The other divider is used normally at the end of the bag for extra lens/lenses.

I'll try the 5L for when I just want compact transport for the SL and lens

Edited July 2, 2019 by MarkP

[MarkP]

4 hours ago, NicholasT said:

Hi Didier,

The camera with lens attached won't fit because the bag tappers at top and bottom so it can't properly accommodate the length of the camera (lens is no problem). 

The ideal use case for this bag with the SL is to use the bag for transport to and from shooting location or when camera is not in use and to rely on excellent shoulder strap or wrist strap the rest of the time. At least with this camera it won't be practical to use this bag constantly while actively shooting. The better choice in this later scenario is to use a bag such as the one that ron777 recommended but it will clearly be much larger (and considerably more expensive). 

The nice thing about the Peak Design bag if its not being used while shooting, is that its so small and light that you can have it draped over your back and forget its even there.

I find that getting comfortable using a smaller bag comes down to the effectiveness of the strap one uses while shooting. While Rock and Roll and other similar straps are wonderful to look at, I've found that almost any strap that has camera hanging from the lugs is not terribly practical (or safe for camera). For years I've settled on what I and many others have found to be an excellent solution and that's the Black Rapid strap. I take it one step further and combine it with Arcatech quick release for an extremely secure and convenient setup. Personally I don't like using the screw in attachment that comes with Black Rapid strap

In order to quickly attach the Black Rapid strap + Arcatech to the camera one needs to have a plate on the camera. Most traditional camera plates are unsightly, interfere with battery compartment or stick out in undesirable ways. Really Right Stuff makes an absolutely beautiful and very well engineered custom plate for the SL. I believe it enhances the look of the camera, is extremely practical in that camera is ready at all times for easy connection to either a tripod or the Black rapid strap while retaining very easy access to the battery compartment with no need to remove the plate. 

Below I've attached some photos so you can get a better idea of the strap, quick release and the RRS plate on the SL.

Nicholas

Black Rapid + Arcatech.jp2 134.31 kB · 7 downloads Leica SL + Really Right Stuff Plate.jp2 123.73 kB · 6 downloads Really Right Stuff on SL Bottom View.jp2 134.24 kB · 5 downloads

I agree with you about the RRS baseplate. I usually don’t fit the side vertical attachment plate.

I still use the original SL neckstrap attached to the camera (near the shutter button)  and  on the same side at the end of the plate.

The only annoying thing though is that with a lot of walking/activity the 24-90 SL zoom often  extends out to the  90mm position.

 

I note mention of the Oberwerth Munchen bags. These leather bags, like the Ona  although beautifully made, are just too heavy and bulky for what I want.

Edited July 2, 2019 by MarkP

[NicholasT]

7 minutes ago, MarkP said:

I agree with you about the RRS baseplate. I usually don’t fit the side vertical attachment plate.

I still use the original SL neckstrap attached to the camera (near the shutter button)  and  on the same side at the end of the plate.

The only annoying thing though is that with a lot of walking/activity the 24-90 SL zoom often  extends out to the  90mm position.

 

I note mention of the Oberwerth Munchen bags. These leather bags, like the Ona  although beautifully made, are just too heavy and bulky for what I want.

Totally with you on not using I the side attachment to RRS baseplates. Seems like more trouble and bulk that it's worth. When necessary RRS ball head can accomplish the exact same result.

Excellent point re SL neckstrap. My comments were directed at using the camera's standard attachment. As you mention the RSS plate offers the option of attaching both ends of the strap on same side (near shutter button) which I believe works better than the default. One of the advantages of the Black Rapid strap solution is that it seems to minimize the issue with lens extending because camera lens hangs parallel to the ground instead of pointing down.

+1 re leather bags looking good but not terribly practical for photography. Both Billingham and Artisan & Artist bags are attractive (with minor leather accents) but they are also very practical and lightweight.

[ron777]

3 hours ago, NicholasT said:

Looks like an excellent and elegant option with lens fully mounted on camera.

At the risk of overdoing it with various options there is one more suggestion. The Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100 bag (photo #1 )

This bag is not custom made for the SL but you'd almost think that it was...I'm able to fit the Leica SL with 24-90 lens mounted, and using one divider on the back fit a very large M lens (75mm f F1.4) and using the other divider on top of the camera able to fully secure and protect the camera while leaving a nice soft platform to fit another quite large lens (Photo #2) Also inside the bag there is a secure strap that allows for interior contents to be tightened providing a real sense of security that everything is protect and not going anywhere.

Also worth mentioning that the Artisan & Artist has one of the absolute most comfortable and adjustable shoulder straps I've ever encountered on a camera bag. 

The Artisan & Artist bag is a little more compact in size than the Billingham SL and cost about 1/3 less.

The Artisan 7100 bag and Billingham SL are both handsome bags although I'd probably give the nod to the Billingham as being the more elegant looking of the two.

Photos attached 

With this post I think I've run out of suggested ways to store and carry the SL!

Cheers,

Nicholas

Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100.jp2Unavailable Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100 Open #1.jp2Unavailable Artisan & Artist ACAM 7100 Open #2.jp2Unavailable

Based upon a viewing of the video and the Billingham's dimensions it appears that it can carry just the camera and lens attached, but there does not appear to be room enough for a second lens.  The Oberwerth, although presumably more costly than the Billingham (could not find pricing), held my SL (when I'd still owned it) and now my S1R with a RRS baseplate plus SL 24-90 attached, and there remains room for a second lens,  flash or whatever.  The Oberwerths are costly, but they are of top grade construction.  I have the all leather Munchen, and a few minutes ago, due to my fondness for their construction and appearance, ordered a second—leather and canvas—Munchen for another mirrorless camera setup.  

Good luck with your quest.

Edited July 2, 2019 by ron777

[didier]

Dear all,

thank you so much for those inputs.

I already own a Billingham hadley small and a hadley pro (and a wonderful FOGG bag, a little bigger).

Actually I am looking for a small bag I can wear across my shoulders in my back to carry easily when I don’t want a camera bag. That’s how I came across the Peak Design Sling Bag, but open to any other possibility !

Thanks for your help 

Didier

[didier]

Dear all,

thank you so much for those inputs.

I already own a Billingham hadley small and a hadley pro (and a wonderful FOGG bag, a little bigger).

Actually I am looking for a small bag I can wear across my shoulders in my back to carry easily when I don’t want a camera bag. That’s how I came across the Peak Design Sling Bag, but open to any other possibility !

Thanks for your help 

Didier

[Jeff S]

A simple, light alternative...

https://figitalrevolution.com/bare-bones-bag-camera-bag-leica-lomo-lca-zeiss-rangefinder/

Jeff

[Tailwagger]

6 hours ago, didier said:

I already own a Billingham hadley small and a hadley pro (and a wonderful FOGG bag, a little bigger).

As I dont own an SL... yet... so I can't say it definitively  work for the 24-90, but the Hadley Digital is one you might consider. I use it with my M10 and it can easily handle an attached 75MM Summilux with the EVF in place  and RSS L-bracket/grip as well. (and two other M lenses besides, typically a Summilux 50 or Zeiss Distagon 35mm and the 21mm Super Elmar).  This despite the fact that the bag is roughly half the size of the Hadley Pro. The Hadley Digital design is somewhat unique in that the camera is down facing and straddles the width of the bag, supported by two inserts that fold over.  Flip the top, and out she comes. Worth a look to see if the measurements work.  

[roofus]

I see you are familiar with Fogg Bags.

I use the Fogg B major or the Fogg E Flat. They will both hold the SL with the 24-90 lens attached and a few accessories.

[Fang]

On 7/1/2019 at 12:09 AM, didier said:

Dear all,

will the Peak Design Everyday Sling 5L be ok to fit a Leica SL + Lens (Lens : M 50, either summicron apo or Noctilux)

thanks for your sharing your experience 

 

Didier

The answer to your question is YES the SL with the 24-90mm lens will fit.  It is very tight with lens cap on the reverse - place the lens side to enable you to zip the sling bag close and if you have a strap you have to position it towards the lens.

 

I have been using it for the past few months and I like the compactness of it.  You cannot fit in other items like a blower nor any extra filters.

Sorry I can't post a photo of it now. 

Edited July 5, 2019 by Fang
to clarify further the answer

[NicholasT]

On 6/30/2019 at 5:09 PM, didier said:

Dear all,

will the Peak Design Everyday Sling 5L be ok to fit a Leica SL + Lens (Lens : M 50, either summicron apo or Noctilux)

thanks for your sharing your experience 

 

Didier

Didier,

Following up on prior suggestions and knowing that you were looking for a compact bag that would accommodate SL and possibly an extra lens or two just came across an interesting option.

The Cecilia Tharp 8L in Leather bag which appears to achieve a good balance between size, practicality and appearance. Its not inexpensive but considering some of the other options that have been mentioned, well within the reasonable price range. 

While its a leather bag its not particularly heavy at 870g which is comparable to the Artisan & Artist bag I mentioned in a prior post (750g). Also the Tharp 8L is a little larger and probably even more practical in that main compartment can be zippered shut when not actively shooting which is a nice option to have.

While I don't own the bag and really don't need yet another bag this one is very tempting so I'm adding it to my mental wish list. The more I learned about the bag and read reviews thought of your post and thought I'd share. 

Cheers,

Nicholas

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[didier]

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[Agent M10]

Recently bought the Oberwerth Boulevard 13, their new light line. Lighter than their William that I had been using for travel. I doubt I'll be buying any more bags after picking up this one. 

Edited July 16, 2019 by Agent M10