phototrope Posted June 14, 2019 Share #21 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I recently bough a brand new MP directly from Leica. It doesn't rattle. But I have to say, I would be very dissapointed if I spent that that much on a camera and it started to rattle after only two months (as I am sure everybody who is making flippant remarks on this thread would be too). Especially, when the Leica website says "The Leica MP is built for long life and lasting value. This is guaranteed by Leica’s commitment to using only the finest materials and the highest precision manufacturing techniques. " If you brought this camera brand new, I would insist that it be repaired or replaced. Wetzlar are maybe being reluctant to do any work on it as they are winding down their MP production. But that shouldn't be your problem. You paid for a two year warranty. I would take it back to Leica Mayfair (or maybe try Leica City - they're a bit friendlier), and take a very strongly worded letter with you. Ask them to send it with the letter back to Wetzlar for a replacement or repair. Edited June 14, 2019 by phototrope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jcraf Posted June 14, 2019 Share #22 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, phototrope said: Wetzlar are maybe being reluctant to do any work on it as they are winding down their MP production. Not sure about that, but I may have missed something. Most people know Leica has ceased the a la Carte programme and prior to this, M7 production. But I haven't seen anything about MP (or for that matter MA) production being wound down. These cameras are built in small batches seemingly when they can be fitted around other production demands. What's your source for the statement? And given that they can, and do, still service Leica M cameras from all eras, why would they be 'reluctant to do any work' on an MP? Edited June 14, 2019 by jcraf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phototrope Posted June 14, 2019 Share #23 Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, jcraf said: Not sure about that, but I may have missed something. Most people know Leica has ceased the a la Carte programme and prior to this, M7 production. But I haven't seen anything about MP (or for that matter MA) production being wound down. These cameras are built in small batches seemingly when they can be fitted around other production demands. What's your source for the statement? And given that they can, and do, still service Leica M cameras from all eras, why would they be 'reluctant to do any work'? I was informed by Leica Mayfair last month that they Leica have wound down their production of MP's to one shipment per year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 14, 2019 Share #24 Posted June 14, 2019 Not all rattles are an indication of something wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted June 14, 2019 Share #25 Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) @phototropeI am pretty close to the Leica retail set up in the UK, and I am not sure that's correct. There is always a wait for MPs, but they arrive in a dealership more than once per year presently. And it's definitely not correct to state that they'd be 'reluctant to do any work' on an MP. The service department at Wetzlar will normally oblige, if you're prepared to pay, and an MP is most defintely a serviceable item. Edited June 14, 2019 by jcraf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phototrope Posted June 14, 2019 Share #26 Posted June 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jcraf said: @phototropeI am pretty close to the Leica retail set up in the UK, and I am not sure that's correct. There is always a wait for MPs, but they arrive in a dealership more than once per year presently. And it's definitely not correct to state that they'd be 'reluctant to do any work' on an MP. The service department at Wetzlar will normally oblige, if you're prepared to pay, and an MP is most defintely a serviceable item. Okay, maybe I was given incorrect information. It doesn't matter The point is, the original poster should get his camera repaired. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted June 14, 2019 Share #27 Posted June 14, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 minutes ago, phototrope said: Okay, maybe I was given incorrect information. It doesn't matter The point is, the original poster should get his camera repaired. Absolutely. Without commenting specifically on Mayfair, I think we just need to reflect things as accurately as we can for the benefit of other Forum members. No reflection on you; you were just reporting what had been told to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted June 14, 2019 Share #28 Posted June 14, 2019 Having resisted the temptation all this week to shake my MP, I finally caved in this evening and shook it. There are no rattles. I'm now going to take a f@c7!ng photograph with it. 🤡 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 14, 2019 Share #29 Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 2:55 PM, 250swb said: so how do you know it's not the camera's without a rattle that aren't the defective ones? Aren't there too many negatives there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkcsm Posted June 25, 2019 Share #30 Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 8:51 AM, Jon Glass said: I would continue to insist. That rattle may not impede function today, or tomorrow, or in a year...but then again it might. If they can pull a new MP out of a box in a store and it exhibits the same behaviour, maybe let it go...but if not, then Leica should make it right. I agree. I had to send a lens back multiple times in past, they eventually got it right. Even if you want to sell it, I’d have them fix it first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted June 26, 2019 Share #31 Posted June 26, 2019 Never had a rattle with my MP in the many years I owned it. Only issue I ever had was misloading the film and getting a jam whilst advancing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 26, 2019 Share #32 Posted June 26, 2019 Workflow... shake, rattle and roll (of film)... shake, rattle and roll (of film).... Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincoln_m Posted July 11, 2019 Share #33 Posted July 11, 2019 Finally finished a TMAX-400 film in my MP, not used much since my M10 purchase last year. I took out the film and with no lens attached shook the camera.... Guess what ? To my great surprise and pleasure I can confirm there is no noise when gently shaken. The only thing that could make noise would be the camera strap rings tapping against the body. If there was a screw loose in the rangefinder I’d have hoped Leica would have found it and either screwed it back or removed if it was a “spare”. Does your rangefinder focusing match the marking on the lens and your estimate of the distance? I.e. is it working OK? It’s not something silly like one of the 2 LR44 batteries left in the battery compartment when you are using the MP in MA mode (no battery)? I use the bigger CR1/3n batteries so I only need one, or 2x CR1/3N in an M7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 13, 2019 Share #34 Posted July 13, 2019 Here's how to fix the rattle: Pete. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/298167-to-all-mp-users/?do=findComment&comment=3777498'>More sharing options...
redlensandgreenbody Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share #35 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) I have checked with my friend who also owns an MP and his MP does not make any rattle noise. Plus, a manager at Leica Mayfair also told me that MP should not make any noise when shaken. So it is normal for an MP to make a bit of noise when shaken sideways? Wetzlar told me that it could be due to the release lever of breaking mechanism. If that is the case then all MPs in the world should make the same kind of noise. Mine's serial starts with 466xxxx so perhaps recent production makes that kind of noise? I am so confused right now as some MPs make the noise and some do not. Edited July 19, 2019 by leoskkang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlensandgreenbody Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share #36 Posted July 19, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 9:16 PM, 250swb said: Cameras loosen up with use, grease is spread around as intended and the parts that should move do indeed start to move as intended. It's like a hand made car engine made to tight tolerances, you don't go straight out and rev the bollocks off it because the parts need to bed in, after which it will run far more freely. So saying it did 'this or that' when it was new is a misunderstanding of how hand made precision goods evolve in use. If that is the case then shouldn't all MPs make some rattling noise when shaken? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlensandgreenbody Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share #37 Posted July 19, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 7:58 AM, 250swb said: Ok, we realise you think the rattling sound is annoying but mine plays 'The Birdie Song' when shaken so you are damn lucky. Does it really make birdie song or are you being sarcastic by exaggerating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlensandgreenbody Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share #38 Posted August 19, 2019 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uQiGJiOeUVIKHIaASx8PNyhAYJQsyLaQ/view?usp=drivesdk This is how it rattles... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monther Posted August 20, 2019 Share #39 Posted August 20, 2019 I’ve never shaken my MP. Did you try using it to take the photos? Does it work ok for those? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlensandgreenbody Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share #40 Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, monther said: I’ve never shaken my MP. Did you try using it to take the photos? Does it work ok for those? Yeah, I mainly use it to take a photo. No need to be sarcastic here mate. It started to rattle when it had returned from Wetzlar for ISO dial repair. Was wondering if other MPs rattle too. If not, I am planning to send it back to Germany. Just want to resolve this before the Brexit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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