nicci78 Posted June 6, 2019 Share #1  Posted June 6, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Did anyone of you tried this mighty couple : CL & quite light and cheap Lumix S 24-105 ? it is lighter and only 1/3 the price of APO-Summicron-SL line lenses. It brings 1:2 macro and OIS to the mix. But it will drain the small CL battery faster.  Is is it a good idea ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boojay Posted June 6, 2019 Share #2  Posted June 6, 2019 I tried it for a while because I managed to pick up a used version, obviously someone had bought it as part of a Panasonic kit and decided it wasn't for them.  I actually ended up returning it as I decided it was just too bulky on the CL body, and I like to keep my CL kit small and as light as possible.  Was very happy with IQ though, and it was good to have Macro and OIS. I can't say I noticed a huge jump in battery drain, with whatever lens I always need a spare in my pocket with the CL. There are a few image samples from me using the combination in the CL image thread. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/298001-cl-lumix-s-24-105/?do=findComment&comment=3754596'>More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share #3  Posted June 6, 2019 Thanks for your thoughts. I will look at your photos. Glad that battery life will not take a huge toll. I was thinking about it as a more practical APO 55-135 replacement : - more useful range 35-150mm vs 85-200 - somewhat faster being a constant f/4. - OIS ! - only 8mm longer but 16mm wider and 180g heavier (36% more) - cheaper. I also plan to buy a used one from an S1 kit  2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojay Posted June 6, 2019 Share #4  Posted June 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, nicci78 said: Thanks for your thoughts. I will look at your photos. Glad that battery life will not take a huge toll. I was thinking about it as a more practical APO 55-135 replacement : - more useful range 35-150mm vs 85-200 - somewhat faster being a constant f/4. - OIS ! - only 8mm longer but 16mm wider and 180g heavier (36% more) - cheaper. I also plan to buy a used one from an S1 kit  Think you can see from my first post about it, I was excited at the prospect at first and didn't immediately see an issue with the size.  If I didn't have other options camera wise I think I would have kept it, and definitely had I been able to handle an SL or had thoughts about the Panasonic bodies.  In good light I think the 55-135 TL is a teeny tiny bit ahead in image quality, but I agree it's a really useful range.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share #5  Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) It is really too heavy. I use the CL with Leica's thumb rest support and handgrip. Maybe that should help with the handling. But you are right, I should tried it first for long period of time.  How is AF speed ? Edited June 6, 2019 by nicci78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 6, 2019 Share #6 Â Posted June 6, 2019 Apologies for my ignorance, but I see no adapter there. Does this mean I can use a Lumix GX85 lens on the CL? I tried to research it online and found nothing definitive. I've been looking at this :Â https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8HV6DG/?coliid=I1149FHR7EALYO&colid=2K2AGYE1K7RCP&psc=0 Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojay Posted June 6, 2019 Share #7  Posted June 6, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, nicci78 said: It is really too heavy. I use the CL with Leica's thumb rest support and handgrip. Maybe that should help with the handling. But you are right, I should tried it first for long period of time.  How is AF speed ? I really did not notice any difference in AF speed between it and the 18-56. 1 hour ago, Jake said: Apologies for my ignorance, but I see no adapter there. Does this mean I can use a Lumix GX85 lens on the CL? I tried to research it online and found nothing definitive. I've been looking at this : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8HV6DG/?coliid=I1149FHR7EALYO&colid=2K2AGYE1K7RCP&psc=0  Jake, no.  The lens we are talking about is an L mount lens, the so called kit lens to accompany the new Panasonic S1 and S1R.  I think you a referring to a micro 4/3 lens, no adaptor to fit to TL/CL (if only)!     1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommonego@gmail.com Posted June 6, 2019 Share #8 Â Posted June 6, 2019 So the OIS works on the CL, just switch it on in the menu? I have been thinking of the Pany 70-200 f4 with the CL. Â Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share #9  Posted June 6, 2019 There is an actual OIS switch on the Lumix S 24-105 m4/3 lenses will never be compatible with L mount. Adapters are physically impossible to make. Anyway m4/3 has a way too small image circle for APS-C and 24x36 sensors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share #10  Posted June 7, 2019 So I tried it today. Still puzzled about it. Quite bad full plastic/magnesium manufacturing process. TL Aluminium/Polycarbonate lenses are way better. The Lumix S 24-105 makes weird cracking sound when zoomed in or out of 24mm. Quite scary. OIS is absolutely stellar. I can confidently shoot at 1/8th of sec at 105mm (155mm)  Stabilised viewing is super nice. Kinder to the eye than shaking view through APO 55-135 AF is quite fast. But not as fast as when mounted on a S1. Size is borderline. Not sure to want to use it everyday. TL 55-135 is more manageable. Depth of field is a disappointment. Being equivalent to f/6, at 24mm (35mm) bokeh is bon existant. Quite nice at 105mm (155mm) but not that thin. This last point is really problematic. It’s like using a giant nothing special lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/298001-cl-lumix-s-24-105/?do=findComment&comment=3755264'>More sharing options...
Boojay Posted June 7, 2019 Share #11 Â Posted June 7, 2019 Think you wrapped it up in the last sentence, a little harshly though lol! Â Â 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted June 8, 2019 Share #12 Â Posted June 8, 2019 Agree. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Wales Posted June 9, 2019 Share #13  Posted June 9, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 4:56 PM, nicci78 said: This last point is really problematic. It’s like using a giant nothing special lens. Now the TL 55-135mm on the other hand is a very special lens, as my posts will testify  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazesus Posted June 9, 2019 Share #14  Posted June 9, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 5:27 PM, Boojay said: Think you wrapped it up in the last sentence, a little harshly though lol!   😂 "It’s like using a giant nothing special lens." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share #15  Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) I used to have the TL 55-135, sold it and regret it. A very nice lens.  Not sure if the Lumix S 24-105 can replace it. F/4 at the long end is OK. But F/4 at the wide end is quite slow with an APS-C. I sold the TL 11-18 because I do not like the everything in focus look, it produces. The Q with f/1.7 spoiled me. The weight and quite poor built are other concerns.   Edited June 9, 2019 by nicci78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share #16  Posted June 12, 2019 The more I think about it, the more I want it. Photos from the Panny 24-105mm is very nice  Bokeh is deliciously smooth at 105mm f/4 (158mm eq.) At 24mm f/4 (36mm eq.) it is equivalent to what I used to get with TL 11-23mm at 23mm f/4.5 Close focus at 30 cm is awesome. It is nice to get a 1:2 macro (1:1.33 eq.) available with a zoom. Weight should be OK, not that bad against TL 55-135, but range and close focus is way more useful. It should be a very nice travel zoom, combine with Leica Q  28mm    I will try to find a used one from a S1/S1R kit. Counting actual launch discount. Stand alone price at 1199€ is way too steep, compare to the 800€ extra within a kit.  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted June 15, 2019 Share #17  Posted June 15, 2019 Will I need a Panasonic body if the new firmware update for the lens is issued ? I assume I will need to upload a new firmware for the CL before I am going to use the Panasonic lens with my camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 15, 2019 Share #18 Â Posted June 15, 2019 The firmware adaptions when mounting a new lens are done automatically in the L system. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1 Posted June 17, 2019 Share #19  Posted June 17, 2019 Anxious to know if this lens can auto focus with T(type 701). Chance is it may not unless Leica is willing to update firmware for T. Leica are you listening?  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share #20  Posted June 17, 2019 https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4388042#forum-post-62761935 It seems to work with the T. Even without firmware update. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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