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Did anyone of you tried this mighty couple : CL & quite light and cheap Lumix S 24-105 ?

it is lighter and only 1/3 the price of APO-Summicron-SL line lenses.

It brings 1:2 macro and OIS to the mix.

But it will drain the small CL battery faster. 

 

Is is it a good idea ? 

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I tried it for a while because I managed to pick up a used version, obviously someone had bought it as part of a Panasonic kit and decided it wasn't for them.  I actually ended up returning it as I decided it was just too bulky on the CL body, and I like to keep my CL kit small and as light as possible.  Was very happy with IQ though, and it was good to have Macro and OIS. I can't say I noticed a huge jump in battery drain, with whatever lens I always need a spare in my pocket with the CL.  There are a few image samples from me using the combination in the CL image thread.

 

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Thanks for your thoughts. I will look at your photos. 

Glad that battery life will not take a huge toll. 

I was thinking about it as a more practical APO 55-135 replacement :

- more useful range 35-150mm vs 85-200

- somewhat faster being a constant f/4. 

- OIS ! 

- only 8mm longer but 16mm wider and 180g heavier (36% more) 

- cheaper. I also plan to buy a used one from an S1 kit

 

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43 minutes ago, nicci78 said:

Thanks for your thoughts. I will look at your photos. 

Glad that battery life will not take a huge toll. 

I was thinking about it as a more practical APO 55-135 replacement :

- more useful range 35-150mm vs 85-200

- somewhat faster being a constant f/4. 

- OIS ! 

- only 8mm longer but 16mm wider and 180g heavier (36% more) 

- cheaper. I also plan to buy a used one from an S1 kit

 

Think you can see from my first post about it, I was excited at the prospect at first and didn't immediately see an issue with the size.  If I didn't have other options camera wise I think I would have kept it, and definitely had I been able to handle an SL or had thoughts about the Panasonic bodies.  In good light I think the 55-135 TL is a teeny tiny bit ahead in image quality, but I agree it's a really useful range.  

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It is really too heavy. I use the CL with Leica's thumb rest support and handgrip. Maybe that should help with the handling. 

But you are right, I should tried it first for long period of time. 

 

How is AF speed ? 

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2 hours ago, nicci78 said:

It is really too heavy. I use the CL with Leica's thumb rest support and handgrip. Maybe that should help with the handling. 

But you are right, I should tried it first for long period of time. 

 

How is AF speed ? 

I really did not notice any difference in AF speed between it and the 18-56.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

Apologies for my ignorance, but I see no adapter there. Does this mean I can use a Lumix GX85 lens on the CL? I tried to research it online and found nothing definitive. I've been looking at this : 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8HV6DG/?coliid=I1149FHR7EALYO&colid=2K2AGYE1K7RCP&psc=0

 

Jake, no.  The lens we are talking about is an L mount lens, the so called kit lens to accompany the new Panasonic S1 and S1R.  I think you a referring to a micro 4/3 lens, no adaptor to fit to TL/CL (if only)!

 

 

 

 

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There is an actual OIS switch on the Lumix S 24-105 

m4/3 lenses will never be compatible with L mount. Adapters are physically impossible to make. 

Anyway m4/3 has a way too small image circle for APS-C and 24x36 sensors. 

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So I tried it today. 

Still puzzled about it. Quite bad full plastic/magnesium manufacturing process. TL Aluminium/Polycarbonate lenses are way better.

The Lumix S 24-105 makes weird cracking sound when zoomed in or out of 24mm. Quite scary. 

OIS is absolutely stellar. I can confidently shoot at 1/8th of sec at 105mm (155mm)   Stabilised viewing is super nice. Kinder to the eye than shaking view through APO 55-135 

AF is quite fast. But not as fast as when mounted on a S1. 

Size is borderline. Not sure to want to use it everyday. TL 55-135 is more manageable. 

Depth of field is a disappointment. Being equivalent to f/6, at 24mm (35mm) bokeh is bon existant. Quite nice at 105mm (155mm) but not that thin. 

This last point is really problematic. It’s like using a giant nothing special lens. 

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Think you wrapped it up in the last sentence, a little harshly though lol!  

 

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On 6/7/2019 at 4:56 PM, nicci78 said:

This last point is really problematic. It’s like using a giant nothing special lens. 

Now the TL 55-135mm on the other hand is a very special lens, as my posts will testify :)

 

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On 6/7/2019 at 5:27 PM, Boojay said:

Think you wrapped it up in the last sentence, a little harshly though lol!  

 

😂 "It’s like using a giant nothing special lens." 

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I used to have the TL 55-135, sold it and regret it. A very nice lens. 

 

Not sure if the Lumix S 24-105 can replace it. F/4 at the long end is OK. But F/4 at the wide end is quite slow with an APS-C. 

I sold the TL 11-18 because I do not like the everything in focus look, it produces. The Q with f/1.7 spoiled me. 

The weight and quite poor built are other concerns.

 

 

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The more I think about it, the more I want it. 

Photos from the Panny 24-105mm is very nice  

Bokeh is deliciously smooth at 105mm f/4 (158mm eq.) 

At 24mm f/4 (36mm eq.) it is equivalent to what I used to get with TL 11-23mm at 23mm f/4.5

Close focus at 30 cm is awesome. It is nice to get a 1:2 macro (1:1.33 eq.) available with a zoom. 

Weight should be OK, not that bad against TL 55-135, but range and close focus is way more useful. It should be a very nice travel zoom, combine with Leica Q  28mm  

 

 

I will try to find a used one from a S1/S1R kit. 

Counting actual launch discount. Stand alone price at 1199€ is way too steep, compare to the 800€ extra within a kit. 

 

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Will I need a Panasonic body if the new firmware update for the lens is issued ?

I assume I will need to upload a new firmware for the CL before I am going to use the Panasonic lens with my camera. 

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The firmware adaptions when mounting a new lens are done automatically in the L system.

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Anxious to know if this lens can auto focus with T(type 701).
Chance is it may not unless Leica is willing to update firmware for T.

Leica are you listening? 
 

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