Q2 rear focus button doesn't disengage front shutter focus

[bsmith]

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Unlike the Q, the Q2 when set to (zoom button ) AFL does not disengage the focusing from the shutter button.

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[SrMi]

1 hour ago, bsmith said:

Unlike the Q, the Q2 when set to (zoom button ) AFL does not disengage the focusing from the shutter button.

Yes, that is correct. I assume that is a software bug, a similar one that Q had in the beginning as well. I have reported it to Leica, you may do so as well.

Edited March 24, 2019 by SrMi

[bsmith]

According to Leica, it’s not a bug. They decided  to change it so you have to constantly hold the rear button in while you press the shutter to lock focus and or exposure. This in combination to now flush mounting the rear focus button, ruins the usefulness of this function that worked beautifully since  2015!!!!!! I guess Nikon, Canon, Sony and Fuji , plus  the Q1 and SL did it wrong all these years!!! Very disappointing that some that worked so well had to be made so awkward with the new improved camera!

please write Leica 

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, bsmith said:

According to Leica, it’s not a bug. They decided  to change it so you have to constantly hold the rear button in while you press the shutter to lock focus and or exposure. This in combination to now flush mounting the rear focus button, ruins the usefulness of this function that worked beautifully since  2015!!!!!! I guess Nikon, Canon, Sony and Fuji , plus  the Q1 and SL did it wrong all these years!!! Very disappointing that some that worked so well had to be made so awkward with the new improved camera!

please write Leica 

What do you mean by "According to Leica"? I have reported it to technicalinfo@leicacamerausa.com and they were not aware of the issue.

I also encourage those who care to contact Leica about that issue.

[bsmith]

I emailed Leica USA in NJ. Technical Support 

They answered now one must hold down the back button to lock focus. Different then on Q1. I’m assuming Leica intentionally changed it. I’m hoping I’m wrong. They also could make an option to “ push to lock” or “hold to lock”  

yes, please contact Leica, Germany 

 

[SrMi]

25 minutes ago, bsmith said:

I emailed Leica USA in NJ. Technical Support 

They answered now one must hold down the back button to lock focus. Different then on Q1. I’m assuming Leica intentionally changed it. I’m hoping I’m wrong. They also could make an option to “ push to lock” or “hold to lock”  

yes, please contact Leica, Germany 

 

I do not think they told you it is not a bug but explained to you how it works now. It is important to mention to Leica that current Q2's implementation is not what the owners expect and that Q and SL have it implemented correctly.

Many Leica owners and testers do not use BBF, so they do not care much how it is implemented or if it is implemented at all. Others do care.

[Leica Guy]

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To me Leica is schizophrenic about BBF. Early on with the Q you had to keep the button pushed. I thought it ridiculous and gave up on it. Later, I really don’t know when, they separated AF on the back button from exposure on the shutter button. A push of the shutter did not refocus. It was locked in with the back button. It worked as it should have. Like my Canon and I know Nikon work. Now with the Q2 they’re reverted back to the original Q implementation. My guess is they picked up an early version of Q firmware when they started developing the Q2 code. Now they need to change it like they did on the Q and like I hear it is on the SL. My guess is they’ll do that. If they don’t, I’ll ignore it and not use BBF on the Q2. 

[Esphosito]

On 3/26/2019 at 1:24 AM, bsmith said:

I emailed Leica USA in NJ. Technical Support 

They answered now one must hold down the back button to lock focus. Different then on Q1. I’m assuming Leica intentionally changed it. I’m hoping I’m wrong. They also could make an option to “ push to lock” or “hold to lock”  

yes, please contact Leica, Germany 

 

I want to write them for the same reason, do you know the email address? 

[jaapv]

On Leica's website.

[Esphosito]

1 hour ago, jaapv said:

On Leica's website.

Done, fingers crossed! 

[bsmith]

On 3/25/2019 at 7:56 PM, Leica Guy said:

To me Leica is schizophrenic about BBF. Early on with the Q you had to keep the button pushed. I thought it ridiculous and gave up on it. Later, I really don’t know when, they separated AF on the back button from exposure on the shutter button. A push of the shutter did not refocus. It was locked in with the back button. It worked as it should have. Like my Canon and I know Nikon work. Now with the Q2 they’re reverted back to the original Q implementation. My guess is they picked up an early version of Q firmware when they started developing the Q2 code. Now they need to change it like they did on the Q and like I hear it is on the SL. My guess is they’ll do that. If they don’t, I’ll ignore it and not use BBF on the Q2. 

Disappointingly, its only on/off on new SL2 update. you have to re focus after every shot or burst.  Nikon and Canon do it the most useful way for a reason.  It works!

Too bad , Leica had it right on the Q1. 

[Esphosito]

You're right but I can give you a trick to skip all this sh###: on the drive menu set the camera on continuous low speed shooting once you half press the shutter it will focus then shoot and get back to half pressing and it will keep the focus. It works but keep in mind that you're also temporarily freezing the exposure then be careful. Hope this helps 

[bullmoon]

That's why Canon and Nikon have the pro market - they have nailed the "tool" camera. I love the handiness and many things about my Q2, but what I love about my 5DIV is that I know it will deliver reliably and predictably, on demand, for almost any photo task I throw at it - and every 5D we've owned has been like that since I moved away from film and my R9 and M7.  Years of both brands has taught me not to expect that of Leica - seems like some of the these features / concepts are just not in their blood.  Shoot the Q2 like it is an M/R camera and it works very well and seems to reveal what is "Leica".

Edited February 21, 2020 by bullmoon

[Leica Guy]

10 hours ago, bullmoon said:

That's why Canon and Nikon have the pro market - they have nailed the "tool" camera. I love the handiness and many things about my Q2, but what I love about my 5DIV is that I know it will deliver reliably and predictably, on demand, for almost any photo task I throw at it - and every 5D we've owned has been like that since I moved away from film and my R9 and M7.  Years of both brands has taught me not to expect that of Leica - seems like some of the these features / concepts are just not in their blood.  Shoot the Q2 like it is an M/R camera and it works very well and seems to reveal what is "Leica".

100% agree with your thoughts and conclusion. My 5D3 is a tool and almost never fails me. For awhile I thought I’d move exclusively to Leica, but I’ve come to appreciate they are complimentary. I need both systems for now as I shoot political events, wildlife, serious macro. My travel camera is the Q2. Lightweight and more fun also a bit more finicky. Still I love it. 

[PhotoCruiser]

There is no doubt that a pro Grade D-SLR is superio to any Leica except the Leica lenses.
My semi pro grade D800 is definitively superior to any Leica while the prime lenses i have are not superior.

It is my "feeling" that either Canon and Nikon pro cameras produce standard/souless photos for a very broad application range while
Leica is a camera who has his soul and produce the special Leica stile photos due it's lenses and sensors.

With the Q series Leica created a very special camera connecting the traditional leica Street photography style camera with a excellent lens and modern software features.
This makes the Q series unique and for the sure steep price (but still a bit less $$$ than only a M-Sumilux 1,4 lens alone) a very good bang for the buck.

Chris

 

 

[bullmoon]

I'm sure there is the Leica mystique - but I try not to let that get into my head too much.  And honestly, when I go back and look at hundreds of photos in Lightroom, I sometimes cannot tell which ones were some 5Dx or Q or Q2 unless I look at the metadata. I have a style of shooting and processing that has evolved over a long time and that seems like the most obvious thing in my shots versus any particular camera or lens (other than obvious feature exploitations).  I do love the Q2 for travel and convenience, but we have some very nice Canon glass too - complimentary systems, for sure.