a.noctilux Posted March 12, 2019 Share #21 Posted March 12, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 minutes ago, Mamac said: I had to make the same choice and I chose the M10 with Summilux 50 & 28 ... There si one think that can make me to sell it: the spot light metering that make me to miss a lot of pictures... It’s realy difficult to achieve without good photoraphic experience... So I plan to buy the new Q2. Only on bolded text ... Mamac, How you use the M10 spot light meter ? If you can use "Spot" you can choose "Multi zones" also (in LV or Visoflex ), maybe this can secure when the lighting is tricky. Or just try to learn more the manual mode (for me the best formula for "tricky lighting"). And with most of my M10 files, when the metering is "out", recovering can be made easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mamac Posted March 12, 2019 Share #22 Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Only on bolded text ... Mamac, How you use the M10 spot light meter ? If you can use "Spot" you can choose "Multi zones" also (in LV or Visoflex ), maybe this can secure when the lighting is tricky. Or just try to learn more the manual mode (for me the best formula for "tricky lighting"). And with most of my M10 files, when the metering is "out", recovering can be made easily. I had an M6 un the past and I hadn’t any problems so I think it’s just a question of time. I only have it for 2 monts. 😉 And it’‘sur ont as easy as the Q is ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted March 12, 2019 Share #23 Posted March 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Only on bolded text ... Mamac, How you use the M10 spot light meter ? If you can use "Spot" you can choose "Multi zones" also (in LV or Visoflex ), maybe this can secure when the lighting is tricky. Or just try to learn more the manual mode (for me the best formula for "tricky lighting"). And with most of my M10 files, when the metering is "out", recovering can be made easily. If you want to use spot metering, you must set the Live View on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted March 13, 2019 Share #24 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jeff S said: I guess you missed the first 5 or 6 threads (really) already on this same one month decision journey. The following may be the first of the bunch... Jeff Yes, Thanks Jeff... seems that I have missed all the other threads. That is a lot of threads. Reminds me of my best friend, research, question, research. I research and buy. Over my life I have learned to quickly reach the necessary evidence and know myself well. So, purchases are really easy. Buyers remorse is not in my genes. Edited March 13, 2019 by JDFlood 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted March 13, 2019 Share #25 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Flyer. After reading what appears to be your first post on this subject. Just go buy and M10. It is like a Fuji X-Pro2 which I also own, only it is much better. Don't sell your Fuji, then you can choose which camera meets your requirements for a session. You just said you have more time, become a craftsman... the M10 is perfect. Remember you are getting old, you want to make the decision before you die and have some time to enjoy it. You can always resell it without losing a fortune. Life it too short. Edited March 13, 2019 by JDFlood 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted March 13, 2019 Share #26 Posted March 13, 2019 As side note... For me when I hesitate too much I don't enjoy the object of long-desired one as when I purchase in a heartbeat. Life is too short to hesitate 😇. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luoyiigsnrr Posted March 13, 2019 Share #27 Posted March 13, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) If manul focus is preferred, the M series. For M series and 35/50mm lenses, focusing should be pretty easy, or I would say comfortable and enjoyable through OVF of M models. I had a try yesterday the M Mono. with a 50mm of a friend yesterday. The OVF and focusing are amazing. If auto focus is preferred, the Q, CL and T series. The Q sereis have full frame sensors, while the CL and T series can use M lenses via adaptor. CL + M lens combo is enjoyable, as my personal experience. Peak focusing in EVF of CL with a 35/2 lens is very easy even at the wide aperture. Once you want a Leica, you have a Leica. Once a Leica in hand, you see it is what you want, no matter whatever you have read from the webpages😀. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 13, 2019 Share #28 Posted March 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, JDFlood said: Flyer. After reading what appears to be your first post on this subject. Just go buy and M10. It is like a Fuji X-Pro2 which I also own, only it is much better. Don't sell your Fuji, then you can choose which camera meets your requirements for a session. You just said you have more time, become a craftsman... the M10 is perfect. Remember you are getting old, you want to make the decision before you die and have some time to enjoy it. You can always resell it without losing a fortune. Life it too short. There is a tendency for some to analyse and challenge every aspect of something like the M10 in the hope that they will find the answer to the question - does this camera meet my needs? It goes further to minutiae like, will the menu system work for me. Take a step back and ask yourself, do I want a camera that works best with primes, manually focused using a rangefinder? or, get all Zen and work out if the Leica gestalt is for you. Then just buy the f***ing thing and learn how to use it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 13, 2019 Share #29 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said: There is a tendency for some to analyse and challenge every aspect of something like the M10 in the hope that they will find the answer to the question - does this camera meet my needs? It goes further to minutiae like, will the menu system work for me. Take a step back and ask yourself, do I want a camera that works best with primes, manually focused using a rangefinder? or, get all Zen and work out if the Leica gestalt is for you. Then just buy the f***ing thing and learn how to use it! It is often called the Magic Bullet syndrome. Those pursuing it seem to think that they will be the only one to find it. Nope. I put the Thambar into that category, and also the imagon, and Petzvals depending their application. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 13, 2019 by pico Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/295150-buying-the-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3701410'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 13, 2019 Share #30 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Flyer said: So given my background and needs would you say M10 or Q2 The answer is to forget about it, just stop thinking about buying a new camera for a couple of months. The when the thought pops back into your mind the answer will be clear. At the moment you are just confusing yourself. And then asking a random bunch of people to give you the answer based on your own way of working is just asking amateurs to become 'camera salesmen come personal coach with a dash of psychologist thrown in', as confusing a job title as the original question is confusing. Edited March 13, 2019 by 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share #31 Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, 250swb said: The answer is to forget about it, just stop thinking about buying a new camera for a couple of months. The when the thought pops back into your mind the answer will be clear. At the moment you are just confusing yourself. And then asking a random bunch of people to give you the answer based on your own way of working is just asking amateurs to become 'camera salesmen come personal coach with a dash of psychologist thrown in', as confusing a job title as the original question is confusing. I think you have hit the nail on the head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted March 15, 2019 Share #32 Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 6:26 PM, IkarusJohn said: There is a tendency for some to analyse and challenge every aspect of something like the M10 in the hope that they will find the answer to the question - does this camera meet my needs? It goes further to minutiae like, will the menu system work for me. Take a step back and ask yourself, do I want a camera that works best with primes, manually focused using a rangefinder? or, get all Zen and work out if the Leica gestalt is for you. Then just buy the f***ing thing and learn how to use it! I have to agree. A Leica M is not like other cameras. It isn’t a list of specs like it might be choosing between a Nikon and Canon DSLR. It is the gestalt and you will only grock it by using one for an extended amount of time. Flyer said he has a Fuji, and wants to slow down and get into it... well that describes the right history and mind set. Sounds like a match. You can get lost in comparisons. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 15, 2019 Share #33 Posted March 15, 2019 If he does buy an M, we better post a link to the FAQ damn quickly, else we run the risk of 10 more threads a month on the basics. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted March 15, 2019 Share #34 Posted March 15, 2019 Do you know what? Don’t buy the M10! You have so many doubts and you probably search for 100% justification for the price. You won’t get that. Buy the Sony. It’s a superior system, but totally different experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted March 15, 2019 Share #35 Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, SMAL said: Do you know what? Don’t buy the M10! You have so many doubts and you probably search for 100% justification for the price. You won’t get that. Buy the Sony. It’s a superior system, but totally different experience. Adding "...but totally different experience" takes him back to the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share #36 Posted March 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Jeff S said: If he does buy an M, we better post a link to the FAQ damn quickly, else we run the risk of 10 more threads a month on the basics. Jeff 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted March 15, 2019 Share #37 Posted March 15, 2019 vor 5 Stunden schrieb pedaes: Adding "...but totally different experience" takes him back to the beginning. There is no beginning. He is running in circles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujk Posted March 16, 2019 Share #38 Posted March 16, 2019 Leica makes different series of cameras, some of them more "Leica" than others. E.g. the Leica compacts are very closely related to the corresponding Panasonic models. But one thing that makes Leica unique across the different series is their knowledge how to design great (although often expensive) lenses. Many of the Leicas can be compared to similar cameras of other camera brands. The M series, however, is unique. It can't really be compared to other brands, because nowadays only occasionally some other manufacturer has tried to make something similar. Consequently, trying to motivate the purchase of a Leica M by comparing it's technical features to other brands and models side by side, even to Leicas of other series, is bound to fail. You choose one for other reasons. It's a bit like buying a Morgan (British sports car). And no, I don't have one (but a friend of mine does). I have a number of Leica Ms instead. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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