Stealth3kpl Posted October 28, 2018 Share #1 Posted October 28, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) This looks very promising indeed (but these thing always do). I wonder if anyone has tried this Lightroom Plugin. I think it's designed for processing a digital RAW file of a photo of your C41 negative, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with a Vuescan DNG file from a C41 scan with the scanner in Transparency scanning mode. https://www.negativelabpro.com Pete 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Hi Stealth3kpl, Take a look here Negative Lab Pro. C41 Digital Conversion in Lightroom. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ramarren Posted October 28, 2018 Share #2 Posted October 28, 2018 Looks interesting. A similar app is now available for iOS (and maybe Android) devices. The iOS link: FilmLab, for Analog Film by Abe Fettighttps://itunes.apple.com/us/app/filmlab-for-analog-film/id1215777349?mt=8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted October 28, 2018 To be honest, it doesn't look remotely similar. That looks like a crappy app which will be limiting, and has nothing to do with Lightroom. So, back on topic, this looks very promising indeed (but these thing always do). I wonder if anyone has tried this Lightroom Plugin. I think it's designed for processing a digital RAW file of a photo of your C41 negative, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with a Vuescan DNG file from a C41 scan with the scanner in Transparency scanning mode. https://www.negativelabpro.com Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted October 28, 2018 I've just found a thread on Rangefinder Forum. A couple of guys have been trying the early version and are very keen on it. The developer, Nate, has now introduced himself on that thread and is looking for feedback and ideas on further features. The plugin was released yesterday. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted October 30, 2018 Share #5 Posted October 30, 2018 That’s very cool. I dont use Lightroom, so hopefully it will also make an appearance as a stand-alone app. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted October 30, 2018 Share #6 Posted October 30, 2018 Looks very interesting. I scan with Epson V700 which outputs in .tiff so according to the video this is not an ideal starting point. Would be good to read feedback from anyone who has tried it with a flatbed-scanned file. (Hopefully later this week I might find some time to try it with the demo version). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted October 31, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Today I'll send a Vuescan DNG to a guy who has been using the software to see if it looks a viable solution to colour conversion. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted October 31, 2018 An extended video Pete 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2018 Share #9 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Using ColorPerfect (plugin for PhotoShop and PhotoLine) with my scans from SilverFast in HDR-format, I get very good results for my colour negatives. In most cases (albeit not all) I prefer the outcome over the SilverFast NegaFix results. Maybe the results can also be achieved by tweaking curves and settings in PS, but with ColorPerfect these results come directly without extra effort. Edited November 2, 2018 by Jossie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted November 2, 2018 Yes, it's a shame about the clunky User Interface of ColorPerfect. For that reason, I think I've taken it off my system (where do I find it again?) A guy who's been trying the plugin offered to work on a Vuescan "RAW" file for me. This was the outcome with "automatic" Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290974-negative-lab-pro-c41-digital-conversion-in-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=3624268'>More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) This is the straight inversion then curves then levels and sliding the red slider in colour levels in Photoshop Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited November 2, 2018 by Stealth3kpl 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290974-negative-lab-pro-c41-digital-conversion-in-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=3624271'>More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted November 2, 2018 I have to admit to preferring the second image, but I expect a better result or starting point can be found with the Plugin. Pete 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 2, 2018 Share #13 Posted November 2, 2018 I like what I'm seeing. The long video is interesting... this thing could even make me use Adobe software again ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted November 2, 2018 Share #14 Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Stealth3kpl said: This is the straight inversion then curves then levels and sliding the red slider in colour levels in Photoshop You can do much, much better in the second image by adding some contrast and simply pressing 'Auto Color' in Photoshop, honest, I've just tried it. But I think I must be missing something, 'Invert Image' and a couple of tweaks has always been the only thing necessary in Photoshop. I appreciate the app is for Lightroom, so can't the same thing be done in that instead of making a palaver out of a simple process? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted November 3, 2018 Share #15 Posted November 3, 2018 10 hours ago, Stealth3kpl said: This is the straight inversion then curves then levels and sliding the red slider in colour levels in Photoshop Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Both attempts are showing a cyan/blue cast, I assume this is due to the orange mask. I’ve not looked at the plugin, but can you create profiles to give a more accurate ‘auto’ conversion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, 250swb said: You can do much, much better in the second image by adding some contrast and simply pressing 'Auto Color' in Photoshop, honest, I've just tried it. But I think I must be missing something, 'Invert Image' and a couple of tweaks has always been the only thing necessary in Photoshop. I appreciate the app is for Lightroom, so can't the same thing be done in that instead of making a palaver out of a simple process? Like this? It still looks a bit "Cinestill 800" rather than Portra 400, although I quite like it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited November 3, 2018 by Stealth3kpl Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290974-negative-lab-pro-c41-digital-conversion-in-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=3624500'>More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share #17 Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Ouroboros said: Both attempts are showing a cyan/blue cast, I assume this is due to the orange mask. I’ve not looked at the plugin, but can you create profiles to give a more accurate ‘auto’ conversion? I'm not good at this sort of thing, this is why I'd be interested in a decent plugin. I'm lucky in that I bought a Pakon 135+ before the prices increased to ridiculous levels, so I'd only use the plugin for the occasional medium format shot. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes of it. Nate, the developer, is keen for input and to develop it further. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted November 3, 2018 Share #18 Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) If you don't mind me taking the liberty, from your original image this was -10 Cyan for shadows, mids, and highlights in Photoshop and finished with 'White Neutralizer' in Color Efex, which dealt with the colour then a bit more contrast to taste. It could be refined better with a larger file because you can see more colour detail but essentially when you get used to how a particular film scan you can almost do alterations in your sleep. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited November 3, 2018 by 250swb 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290974-negative-lab-pro-c41-digital-conversion-in-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=3624584'>More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share #19 Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) I wish there were a video about how to do that sort of thing, Steve, hint hint. What do I use to measure the -10 cyan? And where's the white neutralizer in color efex? Pete Edited November 3, 2018 by Stealth3kpl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted November 3, 2018 Share #20 Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, 250swb said: If you don't mind me taking the liberty, from your original image this was -10 Cyan for shadows, mids, and highlights in Photoshop and finished with 'White Neutralizer' in Color Efex, which dealt with the colour then a bit more contrast to taste. It could be refined better with a larger file because you can see more colour detail but essentially when you get used to how a particular film scan you can almost do alterations in your sleep. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Too red for my taste, but I'd be correcting a 16-bit tiff anyway and I agree with you that working with a low res file is not ideal for this sort of thing. I must say I've never been impressed with any plug-in that promises a one-click fix for anything let alone be tempted to change my (over 3 decades long) Photoshop workflow, so I'm a bit sceptical at this point. Always open to new ideas, though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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