cp995 Posted October 1, 2018 Share #21 Posted October 1, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... I wonder if its a new design, or the 3.5 is an 'imaginative' f/4 from the marketing dept... The 3.5/21 and 2/35 were prototypes of new designs shown at the Photokina fair in Cologne. It was interessting to see them showing still not announced prototype lenses there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 Hi cp995, Take a look here New Voigtlander 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted October 1, 2018 Share #22 Posted October 1, 2018 Funny how much the hood for the new 21 resembles the style of the old OLLUX for Summilux 35 1st Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290007-new-voigtlander-21mm-35-color-skopar/?do=findComment&comment=3604183'>More sharing options...
d.s. Posted October 1, 2018 Share #23 Posted October 1, 2018 Cosina's 25 and 28mm Skopars must have sold very few copies to not revitalize them in M mount form before considering a third gen 21mm. Too bad. I wonder if they'll ever update their 75/2.5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted October 1, 2018 Share #24 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Funny how much the hood for the new 21 resembles the style of the old OLLUX for Summilux 35 1st OLLUX.jpg The hoods were exchanded in the photos ... It's the hood for the Ultron 2/35, which looks like the OLLUX. Here it was corrected: https://leicarumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Voigtla%CC%88nder-lenses-for-Leica-M-mount-Ultron-35mm-f2-and-Color-Skopar-21mm-f3.5.jpg Edited October 1, 2018 by cp995 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted October 1, 2018 Share #25 Posted October 1, 2018 I have both the LTM and M versions of the 21/4 along with the hood. Both bought used dirt-cheap. Maybe I just got lucky twice but I have never had any issues with them on M9 or M240 (coded as Leica 21/2.8 pre-ASPH). No color casts, no pronounced or skewed vignetting. Nothing to compel me to buy a new version. I kept my pre-ASPH Elmarit in case a 1-stop advantage were ever crucial, but I’ve traveled the world with the little f/4 and it has never been a problem. Glad to see CV still in there punching though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 1, 2018 Share #26 Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) The hoods were exchanded in the photos ... It's the hood for the Ultron 2/35, which looks like the OLLUX. Here it was corrected: https://leicarumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Voigtla%CC%88nder-lenses-for-Leica-M-mount-Ultron-35mm-f2-and-Color-Skopar-21mm-f3.5.jpg Aha ! Thanks, didn' notice that image : indeed, it looked to me an oddity to have styled a hood exactly like old Summilux 35's one… just to make it for a 21... (and the other hood looked a lot WIDE for a 35... ) Edited October 1, 2018 by luigi bertolotti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 2, 2018 Share #27 Posted October 2, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I like much this OLLUX-like hood. I wonder if it can fit the CV 21/3.5 on APS cameras. Or the LH4-N vented hood (pic) for E39 35/2.5 and 50/2 CV lenses. Both would be nice on the digital CL i suspect. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290007-new-voigtlander-21mm-35-color-skopar/?do=findComment&comment=3604498'>More sharing options...
dsj Posted October 2, 2018 Share #28 Posted October 2, 2018 The new 21mm 3.5 looks like a very tempting proposition. I have been considering a 21mm for a while but I can't justify the price of the Super-Elmar for a lens I will only use very rarely. Equally tempted by the new 50mm 1.2 as an addition to my 50mm Summicron. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 2, 2018 Share #29 Posted October 2, 2018 The new 21mm 3.5 looks like a very tempting proposition. I have been considering a 21mm for a while but I can't justify the price of the Super-Elmar for a lens I will only use very rarely. There are secondhand 21mm Elmarit Asph. available. It may not be as clinical as the SEM but it's still a great lens. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 2, 2018 Share #30 Posted October 2, 2018 Not the same bulk though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290007-new-voigtlander-21mm-35-color-skopar/?do=findComment&comment=3604682'>More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted October 2, 2018 Share #31 Posted October 2, 2018 The 3.5/21 and 2/35 were prototypes of new designs shown at the Photokina fair in Cologne. It was interessting to see them showing still not announced prototype lenses there. Only guessing, but I would think it's very likely that the prototype VM 21mm f3.5 will be the same 9 elements in 8 groups configuration as the Sony E mount version that was announced some time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted October 2, 2018 Share #32 Posted October 2, 2018 ... Unless it approaches the SEM in IQ as well I'm not sure what it provides in terms of options. Money. While I have not seen a price, most CV lenses are priced in the hundreds of dollars while Leica lenses are priced in the thousands. While currently all of my lenses are Leica lenses, my experiences with the CV 35/2.5 was very good. It was hard to find fault with a lens that cost 1/10 of the price of the Summicron. When it comes to 21 mm lenses that are often only occasional use lenses, the same savings can forgive a possibly slightly lower build quality. That said, I will still keep my 21 SEM. It is a fabulous lens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 2, 2018 Share #33 Posted October 2, 2018 Only guessing, but I would think it's very likely that the prototype VM 21mm f3.5 will be the same 9 elements in 8 groups configuration as the Sony E mount version that was announced some time ago. I think it is like this by sure… maybe it's even declared somewhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 2, 2018 Share #34 Posted October 2, 2018 Not the same bulk though. DSC00804-afterweb.jpg I guess the lens on the left is the CV? But I was responding to the post where the decision seemed to be between the new CV and a new SEM. According to the wiki here, the Elmarit is just 3mm longer than the SEM. So not that dramatic! Oh and comparing size of lenses where one has a hood and the other not is cheating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 2, 2018 Share #35 Posted October 2, 2018 I guess the lens on the left is the CV? But I was responding to the post where the decision seemed to be between the new CV and a new SEM. According to the wiki here, the Elmarit is just 3mm longer than the SEM. So not that dramatic! Oh and comparing size of lenses where one has a hood and the other not is cheating Both have a hood there but the CV's is really tiny. Anyway the CV 21/4 is the smallest full frame 21mm M lens IINW and it feels actually so compared to the SEM as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 2, 2018 Share #36 Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) deleted by pico Edited October 2, 2018 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsj Posted October 3, 2018 Share #37 Posted October 3, 2018 There are secondhand 21mm Elmarit Asph. available. It may not be as clinical as the SEM but it's still a great lens. Good point, thank you. I tried one for a few days once and loved it. If I came across one in good condition for a convincing price I would definitely go for it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sls Posted October 4, 2018 Share #38 Posted October 4, 2018 All my lenses from 28mm up are Leica, but for wide I have the Zeiss 21/f2.8 ZM and Voightlander 15/f4.5 mkIII. Both are absolutely superb. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephengv Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share #39 Posted October 19, 2018 Check this out: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.s. Posted October 19, 2018 Share #40 Posted October 19, 2018 It's great to see Cosina bringing back those old LTM focus tabs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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