SMAL Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share #61 Posted October 4, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Speaking from an entirely pragmatic point, I find a Canon ƒ0.95 converted to M very good, although I did go through four to find the best. In the end all four together were less expensive than one Noctilux. I think the Canon has an extremely different look and it´s so soft that it really doesn´t appeal to me anymore. Isn’t the Nikon 0.95 MF? It is fully manual, but the Leica M has a lag when you using the LV with focus peaking before taking the shot. But I can simply use my noctilux adapter and shoot the F0.95 on my Sonys, if I want to. Instead, I can get a Nikon Z 58mm 0.95 + Z6 body and I still have change. No sweat focusing or any leica lag issues - good grief! Have you seen how heavy the lens will be? It´s humongous plus it will be released in a year, so where could you get one now? It´s also only MF. @SMAL: Cut and paste is not my style ... it is preferable to write afresh each time. It seems like copy paste. Maybe you wrote so often over the whole forum, that you write a lot off your memory. It´s one thing about informing potential buyers with facts or another with bashing a product with your own subjective experience. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gobert Posted October 4, 2018 Share #62 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Recently I think it is more than that .. those who hate it seem to hate it with a vengeance for reasons I do not understand Maybe it fell on their big toe at some point .. I really like it, but come close to selling it once or twice to finance other gear as I get 90% of what I get from it from the Lux at less price, less weight etc I am really happy I kept it, but understand why others did not Recently I had the opportunity to use it in Leica Shop Amsterdam and to photograph my babe with it. I was already very attracted to the lens, but now I am sincerely considering to sell my babe and to buy a 0.95 from the proceeds.Yes, I am heavily in love. Edited October 4, 2018 by Gobert 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 4, 2018 Share #63 Posted October 4, 2018 You can always make more babies. And that's fun too. Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted October 4, 2018 Share #64 Posted October 4, 2018 @fanrz, Would you be so kind to explain this in more detail? Illustrations are welcome. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedro Posted October 4, 2018 Share #65 Posted October 4, 2018 @fanrz, Would you be so kind to explain this in more detail? Illustrations are welcome. as long as they are made with the 0.95 so that most of them will be out of focus and we don't get in trouble 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 4, 2018 Share #66 Posted October 4, 2018 You can always make more babies. And that's fun too. Pete. For the first hours. Then it’s 25 years of ........ never mind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted October 5, 2018 Share #67 Posted October 5, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I purchased the 50/0.95 earlier this year and sold it after 6 months. I don't regret the purchase because I now know that it's not for me. It's just way too big and heavy for a rangefinder. Add in the Visoflex and it becomes clumsy to handle. It was much better on the SL but after the honeymoon I sold it and I'm happily back with my Summilux-M. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiebrou Posted October 6, 2018 Share #68 Posted October 6, 2018 I use the Noctilux almost exclusively on my MP240. Yes it is difficult to use and focusing with the EVF is not the best but the results are worth the hit and miss rate imho. Now i intend to give my 50mm APO M a go. The Noctilux is heavy and a pain but i have found that focusing on the SL is much much easier to the point where i think it is almost unsuited to the M bodies. I have yet to try a SL prime to compare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share #69 Posted October 6, 2018 I use the Noctilux almost exclusively on my MP240. Yes it is difficult to use and focusing with the EVF is not the best but the results are worth the hit and miss rate imho. Now i intend to give my 50mm APO M a go. The Noctilux is heavy and a pain but i have found that focusing on the SL is much much easier to the point where i think it is almost unsuited to the M bodies. I have yet to try a SL prime to compare. Have you tried using a magnifier instead of the EVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted October 6, 2018 Share #70 Posted October 6, 2018 I haven’t tried the f1, but quite enjoy the f0.95, for some portraits at least. But for normal shooting the SL Summilux is sharper and more colourful, without the purple fringing. And the APO Summicron has a cleaner look too. The vignetting on the Noctilux means that for some subjects the headline aperture advantage is not as big as it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share #71 Posted October 6, 2018 The vignetting on the Noctilux means that for some subjects the headline aperture advantage is not as big as it seems. The vignette is fully removable in LR with one click. I don´t think that´s an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted October 6, 2018 Share #72 Posted October 6, 2018 It isn’t, I agree, but it affects the effective aperture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share #73 Posted October 6, 2018 It isn’t, I agree, but it affects the effective aperture. No, it doesn´t how do you come to this conclusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru2far2c Posted October 6, 2018 Share #74 Posted October 6, 2018 Have you tried using a magnifier instead of the EVF? I also have a M240 with a V1 noctilux. Have found that the EVF helped me a great deal in achieving more in focus images. Do not have a magnifier so can not answer that part of your question. Have been considering a 0.95 recently. Have a recent 50 summilux as well and go between the two 50’s depending on the look I’m wanting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 6, 2018 Share #75 Posted October 6, 2018 ... But for normal shooting the SL Summilux is sharper and more colourful, without the purple fringing. ... But then the SL is performing in-camera corrections on pictures from the Summilux-S that it's not doing on pictures from the Noctilux so you're hardly comparing apples with apples. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiebrou Posted October 7, 2018 Share #76 Posted October 7, 2018 Have you tried using a magnifier instead of the EVF? I have a x 1.25 on my M246 but i still find it more difficult than the EVF. What would you recommend? X 1.4? If I could do without the EVF on the M, i would be much happier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted October 7, 2018 Share #77 Posted October 7, 2018 I preferred the 1.25. with the 1.4 I noticed more flare and I also prefer seeing a little bit more outside the frame lines then what the 1.4 allows for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 7, 2018 Share #78 Posted October 7, 2018 I use the Noctilux almost exclusively on my MP240. Yes it is difficult to use and focusing with the EVF is not the best but the results are worth the hit and miss rate imho. ... I've had my Noctilux for about 10 years now and I've found that I need to use it regularly to consistently nail focus with the VF/RF. If I haven't used it for a while then it takes a little time before I get back in the groove and consistently find focus so my advice would be to persevere with your VF/RF and you'll find it worth while. The EVF is an alternative but it's too clumsy and slow for me. Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted October 7, 2018 Share #79 Posted October 7, 2018 But then the SL is performing in-camera corrections on pictures from the Summilux-SL that it's not doing on pictures from the Noctilux so you're hardly comparing apples with apples. Pete, I think that both lenses give rise to in-camera correction, although I use Lightroom to process my pics and don't generate the JPEGs in-camera. (But you still corrections using Lightroom, even if they are easier to switch off for M lenses.). So I do think that apples are indeed apples in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share #80 Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I have a x 1.25 on my M246 but i still find it more difficult than the EVF. What would you recommend? X 1.4? If I could do without the EVF on the M, i would be much happier.I don’t know. I was just looking for recommendations! I have ordered a x1.4 one and it arrives tomorrow. I’ll be more than happy to report how it works for me. But honestly. I force myself right now to shoot only with the f0.95 to get a fast learning curve and the more I work with it, my keeper rate gets higher. It’s only sometimes when I feel like my eyes get tired after a long day, that I miss more shots and I think that’s what the x1.4 can help with. At least I hope so. We will see. (No pun intended) Edited October 7, 2018 by SMAL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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