ynp Posted September 28, 2018 Share #121  Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't see this body designed where-ever in Russia. It's kinda sad because it's more like "Copy" from...Wetzlar + M10 ISO dial deleted.    The outer shell and the packaging (whatever it is) were designed by a Russian company SmirnovDesign.https://smirnovdesign.com/porfolio/ Edited September 28, 2018 by ynp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 28, 2018 Posted September 28, 2018 Hi ynp, Take a look here M Camera made by Zenit. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
willeica Posted September 28, 2018 Share #122  Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) why don't KMZ make a LTM version with their own Russian register distance so all e.g. Jupiter LTM owners (which [mostly] do not focus sorrectly on a Leica LTM/M-mount with an adapter) , can at last use their lenses natively again. Or trow in one verion on the market too with a German register distance  Come on, the biggest hurdle is the marketing, not the making. And an LTM camera is completely free of license rights if I am well informed.  My Jupiter 3 focuses superbly with an adapter on my M10. It must be one of the exceptions, made in 1954. There are plenty of nasty fakes to be found in Russia still, but there are also genuine dealers, such as the one I visited in St Petersburg last March, who have a plentiful supply of the older LTM based models, more than enough to meet any current market demand. I do feel that this Zenit camera and lens are just the beginning of very interesting possibilities for Leica and the KMZ establishment. I intend to ask Leica executives about those possibilities when I am in Wetzlar with the LHSA group next week. I would suggest a reading of this website http://sovietcams.com for any forum members who are interested in this topic.  William Edited September 28, 2018 by willeica 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted September 29, 2018 Share #123  Posted September 29, 2018 The link below shows the new Zenitar 21mm. I am not sure that I want this lens, I have four 21s in Leica-M mount already   https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-next-zenit-m-lenses-will-be-the-50mm-f-1-0-and-21mm-f-2-8/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/289863-m-camera-made-by-zenit/?do=findComment&comment=3602573'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 29, 2018 Share #124 Â Posted September 29, 2018 As Zenit are designing and manufacturing M lenses, can we also expect some Zenit 'L' lenses in future? Â Any reason why Zenit should not sign up and join the 'L Mount Alliance'? Â dunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted September 29, 2018 Share #125  Posted September 29, 2018 As Zenit are designing and manufacturing M lenses, can we also expect some Zenit 'L' lenses in future?  Any reason why Zenit should not sign up and join the 'L Mount Alliance'?  dunk I doubt that Shvabe/KMZ is able to manufacture the autofocus lenses, without a lot of technical assistance from the experienced companies at least. It’s not a coincidence that Zenit brand is being revived on the basis of the Leica-M, a manual focus camera, Russia does not have an access to the AF technology at the moment as far as I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 29, 2018 Share #126  Posted September 29, 2018 I doubt that Shvabe/KMZ is able to manufacture the autofocus lenses, without a lot of technical assistance from the experienced companies at least. It’s not a coincidence that Zenit brand is being revived on the basis of the Leica-M, a manual focus camera, Russia does not have an access to the AF technology at the moment as far as I know.    One step at a time … licensing AF technology is not so complex as e.g. 'rocket science'   dunk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted September 29, 2018 Share #127 Â Posted September 29, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Where are people getting the screwball (one might say - ignorant and uninformed) idea that the lens on the Zenit is "fixed" and not interchangeable? Â I think the fixed lens comments are referring to the Zeiss not the Zenit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted September 30, 2018 Share #128 Â Posted September 30, 2018 The thread heading says Zenit. Why Zeiss posts are mixed with Zenit creating confusion? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distagon Posted September 30, 2018 Share #129  Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) The Representative of Zenit said that they plan only the limited edition of the camera, only 500 numbered cameras will be manufactured by Leica. Yevgeny Apart from resurrecting the Zenit aesthetic, the great benefit of this product is that it clears 500 surplus M240 bodies from Leica’s stock and returns some capital to Leica.It’s marketing genius, particularly when paired with the Zenitar lens: a sure way to sell 500 bodies that would otherwise have sat in a warehouse. Edited September 30, 2018 by Distagon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 1, 2018 Share #130  Posted October 1, 2018 Apart from resurrecting the Zenit aesthetic, the great benefit of this product is that it clears 500 surplus M240 bodies from Leica’s stock and returns some capital to Leica. It’s marketing genius, particularly when paired with the Zenitar lens: a sure way to sell 500 bodies that would otherwise have sat in a warehouse.   Will they be future, scarce, sought after, classic cameras and lenses?  dunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 1, 2018 Share #131  Posted October 1, 2018 Will they be future, scarce, sought after, classic cameras and lenses?  dunk  I think so, Dunk but perhaps not within our lifetime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted October 2, 2018 Share #132 Â Posted October 2, 2018 What will surprise me is a shift from high contrast, russian and mij zeiss lenses, which also corresponds to reduced ability to render settle nuances in tone, especially mid and dark ones. Corners look like an M5. Leica does not seem to give away its sought after round corners. Leica must be preparing the best viewfinder on an M camera, and a 36mpx sensor, perhaps. This russian camera will look old as soon as Leica comes out with the new stuff. If price drops, it might be a good idea, but why buy this when you can buy a used Leica M? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmlpoma Posted October 2, 2018 Share #133 Â Posted October 2, 2018 Very nice idea from Leica. Let's see how much this make the price of used M240's drop down. It makes happy stupid people like me that bought an original Leica's M 240. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted October 2, 2018 Share #134 Â Posted October 2, 2018 Very nice idea from Leica. Let's see how much this make the price of used M240's drop down. It makes happy stupid people like me that bought an original Leica's M 240. Â Surely the price will be more than a good used 240, so I don't think it will have any impact. If there are only 500, most will go to collectors I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hughes Posted October 3, 2018 Share #135 Â Posted October 3, 2018 134Â posts here about it and not one has been sold and used yet... Â Just my 2d worth, David Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajayk Posted October 3, 2018 Share #136  Posted October 3, 2018 €5-6000 for a Zenit? I was wondering how to get one in the US until I saw that! LOL! Can’t come to US. After sanctions and trump tariff it will cost €15000 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajayk Posted October 3, 2018 Share #137  Posted October 3, 2018 134 posts here about it and not one has been sold and used yet...  Just my 2d worth, David It’s available only early 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 3, 2018 Share #138  Posted October 3, 2018 134 posts here about it and not one has been sold and used yet...  Just my 2d worth, David   A gear forum like this would be an even duller place if you can only discuss products already available to buy.  I think tuppence was being a bit generous. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hughes Posted October 3, 2018 Share #139  Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) It’s available only early 2019 Hi,  That's what worries me...  The problem is that we have put comments on the internet and in a couple of years time people will be looking for info and opinions and won't notice that these threads were written before the camera was available. And then they'll spread it around and it will become a fact to a lot of people.  My experience of these things is that a prototype is made and tested and then changed a bit, then there's a small pre-production run and the assembly raises problems and maybe something changes and so on. Then the public get hold of them and start commenting and so it goes on and on. And once two people have managed to break something the reputation will be gone for good.  I've a lot of old cameras that I use and often see comments on them here and there that couldn't possibly be by someone who has used one. But that's the internet for you.  Regards, David Edited October 3, 2018 by David Hughes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hughes Posted October 3, 2018 Share #140 Â Posted October 3, 2018 A gear forum like this would be an even duller place if you can only discuss products already available to buy. Â I think tuppence was being a bit generous. Â Hmmm, it was 2d in old money so not even worth a new decimal penny... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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