bags27 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #601 Posted January 17, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, scroy said: Note with a Caveat, at CES I was only holding the mechanical prototype + 24-105 in one hand and my SL+35mm Summilux-TL in the other hand. I was told by the marketing guy that the weight should be nearly identical to the production version. S1R + 24-105 is heavier than the SL+ 35mm Summilux-TL but the combo did feel quite a bit lighter than the SL+24-90mm. I had the 24-90mm with me as well, but couldn't compare them at the same time due to the line of people interested in holding the S1R. Thanks for this. One make or break consideration with the S1R, I think, will be if the sensor plays well with M lenses. If it does, despite it being very un-Leica-like in form, it may be a very tempting alternative, esp. as the current rumor (and it is only a faint one) is that the SL2 announcement is many months away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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helged Posted January 17, 2019 Share #602 Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, bags27 said: Thanks for this. One make or break consideration with the S1R, I think, will be if the sensor plays well with M lenses. If it does, despite it being very un-Leica-like in form, it may be a very tempting alternative, esp. as the current rumor (and it is only a faint one) is that the SL2 announcement is many months away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #603 Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, helged said: You're quoting me to me? First time for everything! 😀 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 17, 2019 Share #604 Posted January 17, 2019 Looking at that video, the filter size for the 24-105mm is a huge 77mm, which really gives a clear idea of the scale of the outfit - even my Sony 70-200mm f4 G is only 72mm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 17, 2019 Share #605 Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, bags27 said: You're quoting me to me? First time for everything! 😀 Not the intention. But a good one, nevertheless... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #606 Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Keith (M) said: Looking at that video, the filter size for the 24-105mm is a huge 77mm, which really gives a clear idea of the scale of the outfit - even my Sony 70-200mm f4 G is only 72mm. the debate about this lens (with tape hiding the aperture) is that maybe it's an f/2.8 all the way rather than a 2.8-4.0. Would the large filter help strengthen that hypothesis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 17, 2019 Share #607 Posted January 17, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 3 Stunden schrieb helged: September, but not sure if it meant announcement or availability. I assume it’s availability because the person who told me wants to buy my SL and can’t wait to do so. I’ve put my name on the “list” for the SL2. 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #608 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Chaemono said: September, but not sure if it meant announcement or availability. I assume it’s availability because the person who told me wants to buy my SL and can’t wait to do so. I’ve put my name on the “list” for the SL2. 😀 Of course, September used to be Photakino time, so maybe the person got influenced by that to give that date. (That's how we historians think, anyway--which is why we're usually wrong.) If Leica has even a ballpark idea of what the SL2 will look like, especially its sensor, it just behooves them to make that known before Panasonic ships. Leica can't be worried about trade secrets--at its price point and quality, it effectively has no competition. But it could lose customers to GAS if there's a Panasonic in hand, and not even an SL2 in the bush. Edited January 17, 2019 by bags27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 17, 2019 Share #609 Posted January 17, 2019 I think he was given an updated date by Leica last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted January 17, 2019 Share #610 Posted January 17, 2019 vor einer Stunde schrieb Chaemono: September, but not sure if it meant announcement or availability. I assume it’s availability because the person who told me wants to buy my SL and can’t wait to do so. I’ve put my name on the “list” for the SL2. 😀 On Lrumor i can only read "Leica plans to have it on market by late 2019 only". Why do you think September? Late 2019 can be 30th December… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 17, 2019 Share #611 Posted January 17, 2019 September was what was mentioned to me last week after an update from Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted January 17, 2019 Share #612 Posted January 17, 2019 thank you, did not know that you have such good contact to Leica... I hope some specs will be announced earlier... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 17, 2019 Share #613 Posted January 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, bags27 said: Of course, September used to be Photakino time, so maybe the person got influenced by that to give that date. (That's how we historians think, anyway--which is why we're usually wrong.) If Leica has even a ballpark idea of what the SL2 will look like, especially its sensor, it just behooves them to make that known before Panasonic ships. Leica can't be worried about trade secrets--at its price point and quality, it effectively has no competition. But it could lose customers to GAS if there's a Panasonic in hand, and not even an SL2 in the bush. Or there might be an opportunity to pick up a lightly used Panasonic end of the year 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 17, 2019 Share #614 Posted January 17, 2019 vor 6 Minuten schrieb verwackelt: thank you, did not know that you have such good contact to Leica... I hope some specs will be announced earlier... Save your irony for other posts. I think I was pretty clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted January 17, 2019 Share #615 Posted January 17, 2019 sorry, it was not meant ironically. may be i understood you wrong. excuse me, but english is not my first language... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 18, 2019 Share #616 Posted January 18, 2019 i cant remember the launch price of the SL..i guess a 48MP, SL2 would probably be priced around $8000+ at launch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 18, 2019 Share #617 Posted January 18, 2019 11 hours ago, frame-it said: i cant remember the launch price of the SL..i guess a 48MP, SL2 would probably be priced around $8000+ at launch In UK launch price of SL601 was £5,250 later price jumped close to 6,000 only to drop below 5,000 once Sony A9 was launched. I can see Panasonic S1R at almost identical specification to SL2 would be selling at roughly half that amount in order to keep it competitive with Nikon Z/Sony Alpha, and also being new full frame kid on the block. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted January 18, 2019 Share #618 Posted January 18, 2019 I have no insight, but I guess the key spec difference will be the sensor on the SL2 being the only one specifically optimised for the M lenses. I’m not sure that aspect will be worth it for me, personally, given I prefer the image quality of the SL primes over even my M 50 APO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted January 18, 2019 Share #619 Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) I THINK I remember that at Photokina that there was talk of the SR1 set at $4500 USD. The question was whether that included the stock zoom. FWIW.... Edited January 18, 2019 by bags27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted January 18, 2019 Share #620 Posted January 18, 2019 I read somewhere $4500 as well. The SL in the US was introduced at around $7500. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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