ShawnK Posted August 2, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 2, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Naturally "Falling Waters", PA has to be on the top, so may I? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3565903'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 2, 2018 Posted August 2, 2018 Hi ShawnK, Take a look here Frank Lloyd Wright thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ShawnK Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share #2 Posted August 2, 2018 F.W. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3565904'>More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted August 2, 2018 F.W Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3565905'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 3, 2018 Share #4 Posted August 3, 2018 Falling Water is my favorite of his projects. As with many of his other buildings, maintaining it has been a very costly task. Terrific photos, and if I recall, not that long a trip for you to visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted August 3, 2018 Thanx Stuart, appreciate it. 2hr 54mins & often slightly less . They did lotsa repairs. At least the cantilever is kinda safe, altho' standing on the bridge (2nd pic) with a tripod, leveled camera & when I pan the camera, one can see the slight dip in the parapet wall, being a structural engineer it always drives me insane. Even in the 2nd pic in the post I tried to make it parallel to others. He embedded all his windows in the stonework, that does make it rather expensive to repair. His upstairs small bedroom & guesthouse tranquil water features are just exquisite. Do visit on @ Oct15th or thereabouts, as that's when fall colors are the best. altho' you may miss Hydrangeas bloom by the creek. I spent some time talking to their landscaper in charge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
war Posted August 3, 2018 Share #6 Posted August 3, 2018 Excellent images. Great way to start the thread, with this iconic work. Hope you have more to show. Wright's distractors have always criticized the various failures in his buildings. The fact is that technology had simply not caught up with him and in the scheme of things Art (with a capital a) was clearly more important to him than science. Some architects and engineers say that with today's materials, technology, computer modeling etc. Wright would not have these problems, but I believe he'd still be way ahead of even the resources and materials we have at our disposal today and his buildings would still leak and lean. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted August 3, 2018 Share #7 Posted August 3, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Lovely pictures of this wonderful house. Apparently a structural engineer who was involved in the project made some calculation errors regarding the cantilevers. They were not strong enough and began to be clearly overstressed from the beginning. This has now been fixed - at an eye watering price. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 3, 2018 Share #8 Posted August 3, 2018 T.C. Boyle wrote one of his marvelous novels (The Women), merging history with fiction, in which we meet The Man, the women around him, and other men at both Taliesin locations and elsewhere. A marvelous read, and once you try that one you'll want to go into all of Boyle's novels and short story collections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted August 4, 2018 Thank you, Stuart, Wally,Michael. FLW's structural applications were ahead of his time. These cantilevered bacony concepts were later (probably) adopted in bridge construction. Trusses on either side with decking hanging from the bottom chord panel points. In lieu of trusses, he used reinforced concrete as parapet walls, anchored way back in the bedrock. Over the years & much heavier loads of public in a private residence might've compounded the problem plus more so-called (me included) experts opining. Same theory but different materials at Taliesin West, Guggenheim circular balconies. Now I'll have to read T.C. Boyle. Do watch on Amazon Prime video "American Masters: Pedro Guerrero: A photographer's Journey". He shot exclusively for FLW @ Taliesin, Scottsdale. AZ, then the Guggenheim. He also photographed Alexander Calder & Louise Nevelson. Here r couple more of details; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3566506'>More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted August 4, 2018 Side entrance Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3566509'>More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted August 4, 2018 From the driveway Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3566511'>More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted August 4, 2018 Entrance by the driveway. That's all I got. Thank you. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3566517'>More sharing options...
war Posted August 4, 2018 Share #13 Posted August 4, 2018 Teriffic series and great idea for a thread. Hope there will be a lot of contributors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted August 4, 2018 Share #14 Posted August 4, 2018 Yes - great series. This house is a challenge to photograph in a new way. Many or most of the obvious viewpoints have been done better than I ever could. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) Thank you, Michael, @ your post in Robbie House thread "Another Frank Lloyd House", about Robert Silman passing away, so sad, here is some info onFrank Silman's web@ Fallingwaters what they did & they didn't do. Post-tensioning is exactly what was needed. http://www.silman.com/services/historic-preservation/fallingwater/ Edited August 9, 2018 by ShawnK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted August 9, 2018 Share #16 Posted August 9, 2018 Such engineering-related things were touched on early in my career in Physics as statics. I remember just enough to be dangerous. But it is hugely interesting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
war Posted August 9, 2018 Share #17 Posted August 9, 2018 Such engineering-related things were touched on early in my career in Physics as statics. I remember just enough to be dangerous. But it is hugely interesting. Ah, statics, those beginning courses in architectural engineering, what fun that was, especially solving truss problems graphically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted August 30, 2018 Share #18 Posted August 30, 2018 For the history of the planning and designing Falling Water I like to recommend the fascinating book Falling Water rising by Franklin Toker. The relationship between Wright and E.J. Kaufmann develops throghout the book. Lex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted August 30, 2018 Share #19 Posted August 30, 2018 Let me add something else by Wright, a house not too far from Falling Water, called Kentuck Knob. Lex Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287184-frank-lloyd-wright-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3582607'>More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share #20 Posted August 31, 2018 Thanx Sandro for sharing. I saw the Kentuck Knob. Altho' it is a great house but being close to Falling Waters seems to be suffering from popularity, but that kinda favors the FLW fans. The grounds are great too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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