dkCambridgeshire Posted June 13, 2018 Share #321 Posted June 13, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am still betting on a major announcement. From Red Dot Forum" "While this is primarily a celebration of the latest additions to Leitz-Park, there is still a chance we might witness some surprise announcements." Why would Kaufman turn up the hype machine followed by Leica Rumors if there was nothing coming? But when is / are the alleged camera(s) coming? Bound to be something new at Photokina. But what 'pure Leica' camera is new and available in June 2018? dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share #322 Posted June 13, 2018 But when is / are the alleged camera(s) coming? Bound to be something new at Photokina. But what 'pure Leica' camera is new and available in June 2018? dunk Dr. Kaufmann specifically said June for L-mount related news. Technically still over 2 weeks to go. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkrzyzow Posted June 13, 2018 Share #323 Posted June 13, 2018 Best-case scenario this is a roughly M-sized EVF L-mount camera with greater than APS-C sensor, sold in conjunction with an M- to L-mount adapter that autofocuses certain M lenses. The latter alone would address the absurd absence of a reasonably sized 50mm in the Leica full-frame autofocus universe (without rendering superfluous the still-large SL-Summicrons, given their exceptional technical image quality exceeding most M lenses), and the former would give a body with size to match and abundant flexibility. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpmckenzie Posted June 14, 2018 Share #324 Posted June 14, 2018 Best-case scenario this is a roughly M-sized EVF L-mount camera with greater than APS-C sensor, sold in conjunction with an M- to L-mount adapter that autofocuses certain M lenses. The latter alone would address the absurd absence of a reasonably sized 50mm in the Leica full-frame autofocus universe (without rendering superfluous the still-large SL-Summicrons, given their exceptional technical image quality exceeding most M lenses), and the former would give a body with size to match and abundant flexibility. sold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpDraht Posted June 14, 2018 Share #325 Posted June 14, 2018 Perhaps Mr. Kaufmann had an L-Watch in mind, not the L-mount? https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/leica-watch-l1-l2-introducing 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 14, 2018 Share #326 Posted June 14, 2018 Best-case scenario this is a roughly M-sized EVF L-mount camera with greater than APS-C sensor, sold in conjunction with an M- to L-mount adapter that autofocuses certain M lenses. The latter alone would address the absurd absence of a reasonably sized 50mm in the Leica full-frame autofocus universe (without rendering superfluous the still-large SL-Summicrons, given their exceptional technical image quality exceeding most M lenses), and the former would give a body with size to match and abundant flexibility. AF would likely be too slow for other than 'gimmicky use' and nowadays the body would need IBIS to compete. Can't see a queue of M rangefinder enthusiasts buying something slower than a traditional rangefinder. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 14, 2018 Share #327 Posted June 14, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not sure about IBIS, Dunk. I doubt whether Leica would implement it in an as-small-as-possible body. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 14, 2018 Share #328 Posted June 14, 2018 Perhaps Mr. Kaufmann had an L-Watch in mind, not the L-mount? https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/leica-watch-l1-l2-introducing Prices start at under €10000 for the L1. That sounds as if they will be 'near to or not too far short of €10000. No thank you. For that £$€ anyone can buy one of several new Rolex sports watches which have proven reliability, better build quality and 'no loss' resale value. dunk 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpmckenzie Posted June 14, 2018 Share #329 Posted June 14, 2018 so much for a new CM , a f..king watch..... disappointment 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgdinamo Posted June 14, 2018 Share #330 Posted June 14, 2018 so much for a new CM , a f..king watch..... disappointment If this is really all from Leica this time around, it probably makes this the candidate for the worst speculation thread in the history of internet (as far as being wrong in prediction). I don't really care cause my Q is still working perfectly. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 14, 2018 Share #331 Posted June 14, 2018 so much for a new CM , a f..king watch..... disappointment The CM will be cheaper - a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 14, 2018 Share #332 Posted June 14, 2018 If this is really all from Leica this time around, it probably makes this the candidate for the worst speculation thread in the history of internet (as far as being wrong in prediction). I don't really care cause my Q is still working perfectly. Don't blame Leica … It's those marketeers again trying to earn a crust of bread. dunk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted June 14, 2018 Share #333 Posted June 14, 2018 If this is really all from Leica this time around, it probably makes this the candidate for the worst speculation thread in the history of internet (as far as being wrong in prediction). I don't really care cause my Q is still working perfectly. Based on people having visited Wetzlar recently, there are ample reasons to expect FF announcement(s) and roadmap(s) for the S and/or SL systems in 2018. Whether that means announcements at the event starting tomorrow, Friday, at 11am according to the Red Dot Forum and/or later (e.g. Photokina at Sep 25) remains to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgdinamo Posted June 14, 2018 Share #334 Posted June 14, 2018 Don't blame Leica … It's those marketeers again trying to earn a crust of bread. dunk I'm not blaming Leica or anyone else for that matter. Leica make some amazing products which I enjoy using, and it's fun to speculate because we are all passionate about this stuff (would not be as much fun if speculations always turned out to be correct). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted June 14, 2018 Share #335 Posted June 14, 2018 Why would anyone want a watch? Time is irrelevant or announced by your phone. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted June 14, 2018 Share #336 Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Why would anyone want a watch? Time is irrelevant or announced by your phone. I still prefer having a traditional watch on my left wrist with analog hand. IMO much quicker and easier to get a feel for the time than opening up the cell phone display by swiping first and having the miniature clock display in one of the corners. This said, I am not interested in this whatever Leica watch. Edited June 14, 2018 by Martin B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 14, 2018 Share #337 Posted June 14, 2018 So it's 21:00pm here and still no news. What's wrong with those slow Europeans? So behind-the-times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted June 14, 2018 Share #338 Posted June 14, 2018 red dot is saying that the opening is tomorrow and MAYBE an announcement then. Can't imagine they'd announce a camera today when they are rolling out their watches. They announced yesterday a seven city tour with the Q leading me to believe that they are still content with that version for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted June 14, 2018 Share #339 Posted June 14, 2018 So it's 21:00pm here and still no news. What's wrong with those slow Europeans? So behind-the-times. It's Leica-time, and other times. It's the Leica-calendar, and other calendars. Time is stretchable, and not always trustable. But perhaps things get a little more predictable with an L-watch on the wrist? Time will tell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonatdonuts Posted June 14, 2018 Share #340 Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) *Eyebrow raised after June 14 L-mount teaser followed by L watch announcement. Now fully expecting a Steve Jobs style "one more thing" presentation that reveals an incredible piece of innovation towards the end of the event. Edited June 14, 2018 by jonatdonuts 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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