ianman Posted March 25, 2018 Share #101 Posted March 25, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are a couple of very personal attacks still in the thread, two by admins. My pointer to the post clarifying the differences between Christian Science and Scientology has been removed. Why admins? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Hi ianman, Take a look here Luxury Camera Bags by Thorsten von Overgaard. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Jeff S Posted March 25, 2018 Share #102 Posted March 25, 2018 I think we should show solidarity and simply refuse to buy his $40,000 bag (the $70 insert can still be used in a well crafted Billingham). That will show him. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 25, 2018 Share #103 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) I think we should show solidarity and simply refuse to buy his $40,000 bag (the $70 insert can still be used in a well crafted Billingham). That will show him. Jeff Agreed! I am happy to go on record to say that I will not be buying any of his bags, ever. I have a Billingham, bought s/h, and that seemed an extravagance for a camera bag to me, but it is a superb bag. Edited March 25, 2018 by earleygallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 25, 2018 Share #104 Posted March 25, 2018 There are a couple of very personal attacks still in the thread, two by admins. My pointer to the post clarifying the differences between Christian Science and Scientology has been removed. Why admins? Because it was a response to another post that has been removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted March 25, 2018 Share #105 Posted March 25, 2018 My post was in no way offensive, either Thorsten, or to Exodies to who I was replying, or to anyone. Exodies post was not offensive either. Yet, the original posts about religion and other issues entirely private to Thorsten remain. As do insults towards him. Talk about double standards! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 25, 2018 Share #106 Posted March 25, 2018 Bringing Thorsten’s beliefs into this discussion is completely irrelevant and was intended to be provocative, in my opinion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 25, 2018 Share #107 Posted March 25, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) It would be great if we could get back to the subject now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 25, 2018 Share #108 Posted March 25, 2018 We can - Thorsten is offering a 90% discount on everything now. (except his bags, I suppose ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted March 25, 2018 Share #109 Posted March 25, 2018 However, having unsubscribed from his newsletter this morning, I received yet another spam message offering me 90% of something because apparently it's his birthday. I've unsubscribed from that as well but what on earth does one do if this stuff still keeps on being sent out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 25, 2018 Share #110 Posted March 25, 2018 My post was in no way offensive, either Thorsten, or to Exodies to who I was replying, or to anyone. Exodies post was not offensive either. Yet, the original posts about religion and other issues entirely private to Thorsten remain. As do insults towards him. Talk about double standards! As I said, your post was removed as "collateral damage" Nobody suggested that it was offensive. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 25, 2018 Share #111 Posted March 25, 2018 However, having unsubscribed from his newsletter this morning, I received yet another spam message offering me 90% of something because apparently it's his birthday. I've unsubscribed from that as well but what on earth does one do if this stuff still keeps on being sent out? I found it very difficult, if not impossible, to unsubscribe in the past. I guess that hasn't changed. It has been relegated to the spam folder a long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 25, 2018 Share #112 Posted March 25, 2018 However, having unsubscribed from his newsletter this morning, I received yet another spam message offering me 90% of something because apparently it's his birthday. I've unsubscribed from that as well but what on earth does one do if this stuff still keeps on being sent out? You can report his website to the relevant authority as he will be breaking data protection laws and there are quite stiff penalites for that. I'm not sure exactly how you go about this but I'm sure a google search will throw up some directions. You can also mark the emails as spam so they go direct to your spam folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 25, 2018 Share #113 Posted March 25, 2018 There are a couple of very personal attacks still in the thread, two by admins. My pointer to the post clarifying the differences between Christian Science and Scientology has been removed. Why admins? I wouldn’t go there, Ian. My post lead us up a blind alley and is better deleted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted March 25, 2018 Share #114 Posted March 25, 2018 As I said, your post was removed as "collateral damage" Nobody suggested that it was offensive. If a post is removed it would nice if the admin who removed it had the courtesy to warn the author why it was removed. Especially when the post in question does not break any rule and leaves the author wondering about the reason of censoring. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted March 25, 2018 Share #115 Posted March 25, 2018 You can report his website to the relevant authority as he will be breaking data protection laws and there are quite stiff penalites for that. I'm not sure exactly how you go about this but I'm sure a google search will throw up some directions. You can also mark the emails as spam so they go direct to your spam folder. His mailing list is managed by mailchimp. The system for unsubscribing consists of a click on the adequate link displayed in each email. I did it this morning. It works perfectly. If it doesn't work for some then he and mailchimp may indeed have big problems when GDPR becomes effective, in May IIRC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 25, 2018 Share #116 Posted March 25, 2018 When he did a risk assessment on launching such a contentious product (he clearly knows it is as he's already tried to justify it) he will no doubt have considered how many of us he can afford to lose and still decided to go ahead. It bemuses me that anyone would want to spend that sort of money on a bag for their camera, at all, ever. No matter what it's made of. And yes, that will be because I have never been nor am I likely to ever be in the position for it to even mildly tax my decision making process. I hope he doesn't sell a single one. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 25, 2018 Share #117 Posted March 25, 2018 If a post is removed it would nice if the admin who removed it had the courtesy to warn the author why it was removed. Especially when the post in question does not break any rule and leaves the author wondering about the reason of censoring. it might be reasonable to assume that when the post that is responded to is removed, subsequent posters are able to put two and two together, especially if the reason is set out in a mod post a few post later. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 25, 2018 Share #118 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) There is a daunting, fine line regarding the elephant skin supply. If it is from elephants that died a natural death, and if the collectors are not disturbing their burial/dying ground (God forbid), and if the proceeds are put towards the welfare of their species and grounds .... Nah. Too much to hope for. For me and my mate using such is just an unbearable thought. It's from our cultural prejudice. Certainly, as horrifying as if my back with a beautiful, huge Asian tattoo were made into a lampshade. Edited March 25, 2018 by pico 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 25, 2018 Share #119 Posted March 25, 2018 Let's not go there, Pico. There is something (almost) analogous here with the death of whales. We don't kill whales any more, but they often strand themselves here, or just wash up when they die. There's a lot in a whale that is useful - ambergris (if you can get at it), the fat, the skin and the bone is as good as ivory for carving. We don't touch them. Instead, local Māori (iwi) often remove the jawbone for carving, then the entire whale is buried on the beach, after appropriate ceremony from the iwi. What Thorsten (disingenuously?) glides over is that while the elephant is apparently dead from natural causes (which I don't belief), and the proceeds are fed back into the wildlife parks, the skin is sold - that simply supports an otherwise illegal trade. The worst crime is that the end result is so amazingly ugly! Single, shiny silver zipper, odd shape, ugly colours ... fashion crime. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 25, 2018 Share #120 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) There is something (almost) analogous here with the death of whales. We don't kill whales any more, but they often strand themselves here, We do not kill them, but some nations do with impunity. There are efforts to take care of that. The strandings, for example a recent of 150 or-so Pilot Whales on your continent, are puzzling and might have been occurring before recorded history. We are not smart enough to know. Still, it is daunting and I cannot reconcile that their remains are harvested for things we do not need. But that's me, economically and socially disconnected, unimportant to the local population. Edited March 25, 2018 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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