Csacwp Posted January 30, 2018 Share #1 Posted January 30, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) How do M10 b&w conversions hold up to those made by the M246, especially when older lenses are used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 Hi Csacwp, Take a look here M10 vs M246 for black and white. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
chris_tribble Posted February 5, 2018 Share #2 Posted February 5, 2018 I've got no means of comparing as I don't have a 246. However, I can say that I'm more than satisfied with what I can get out of M10. Examples here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskB88AKi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEcKONG Posted February 6, 2018 Share #3 Posted February 6, 2018 Street Silhouettes just made a comparison.... http://www.streetsilhouettes.com/home/2018/1/2/monochrome-comparison-3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjay Posted February 6, 2018 Share #4 Posted February 6, 2018 This has been discussed extensively: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277060-m10-vs-m246-no-comparision-for-bw/ I have both cameras, but am happy enough with the monochrome images from the M10 to eventually sell off the M246. It depends on the end use of the images really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted February 6, 2018 Share #5 Posted February 6, 2018 The 246 is a very fine camera, a revelation when it was released as it built massively on the already strong foundations of the MM. I loved mine for the fine rendering it gave to landscapes. What changed it for me was the SL, the rendering was very nearly as fine, and the added bonus was I could go back to using colour filters in post processing to alter the tonal balance of B&W images. So I sold the 246, then sold the SL and now have the M10. One additional advantage of the M10 is the clean and smooth tones and fine definition possible even using it at higher ISO. I would normally carry a tripod but this photo was hand held and made at 1600 ISO to cope with the light and need for a smaller aperture, it works as well as any made with the 246... https://flic.kr/p/23MDuG6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lonescapes Posted February 6, 2018 Share #7 Posted February 6, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) As an M246 owner who rented an M10 for a couple weeks to try it out, I find the Street Silhouettes write-up to be highly accurate. Are you shooting mostly in daylight? M246 not necessary, and may even be a hindrance as you will need to expose hard left very frequently to avoid the total loss of highlights that M246 suffers from. Are you shooting very fast glass (Summilux/Noctilux?) Then you've already got half of the solution the 246 provides (best low light performance on an M body). However, that low light performance includes much nicer noise rendering than any other digital M, and as the SS writeup points out, the slight edge in BW rendering that the 246 has gets more and more noticeable the more you push into available light territory. I shoot primarily in low/available light, and I am insistent on keeping my lenses small and (relatively) affordable because I ride them until the wheels come off. That means Summicron, which means I need great low light capability off the sensor, as opposed to the lens, and since I have no need to deliver my photos in color, that seals it. Having said that, the shooting experience of the M10 was an absolute delight compared to the 246, so if I didn't have these particular needs, I would gladly trade up for an M10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted February 7, 2018 Share #8 Posted February 7, 2018 Street Silhouettes just made a comparison.... http://www.streetsilhouettes.com/home/2018/1/2/monochrome-comparison-3 This is an important comparison in spite of the way the images are arranged. It makes side by side comparisons impossible. Thanks for doing this !! Lots of work! rafael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted February 7, 2018 Share #9 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) I've got no means of comparing as I don't have a 246. However, I can say that I'm more than satisfied with what I can get out of M10. Examples here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskB88AKi Which part of the country? Great pics – BTW especially liked the sheep . Edited February 7, 2018 by microview 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted February 7, 2018 Share #10 Posted February 7, 2018 I've got no means of comparing as I don't have a 246. However, I can say that I'm more than satisfied with what I can get out of M10. Examples here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskB88AKi Very well done work with trees. I like seeing the "treeness" of trees. Long live the M10! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcg Posted February 7, 2018 Share #11 Posted February 7, 2018 Very well done work with trees. I like seeing the "treeness" of trees. Long live the M10! Then you should read about the Ents in the Lord of the Rings http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Treebeard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted February 7, 2018 Share #12 Posted February 7, 2018 Then you should read about the Ents in the Lord of the Ringshttp://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Treebeard Ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 8, 2018 Share #13 Posted February 8, 2018 Which part of the country? Great pics – BTW especially liked the sheep . All within about 20 miles of Kendal in Cumbria. There's a wonderful mix of limestone pavement, moorland and more complex mixed geology in the area with park and farm land between the scars and outcrops. Glad you liked the snaps. Exhibition in Kendal opens 8th June! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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